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BBL wrote:

Has there been any news about whether the Pacific Games will be entwined with Olympic qualifiers again next year?

Pretty sure I’ve read somewthat it is. Try OFC site. 

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Global Game wrote:

BBL wrote:

Has there been any news about whether the Pacific Games will be entwined with Olympic qualifiers again next year?

Pretty sure I’ve read somewthat it is. Try OFC site. 

Looks like the Pacific Games are in Samoa after Tonga pulled out of hosting. First games are on the 8th of July; 2019.

Can the speculation about a team of U23s begin?

Whose still 22 or under? Myer Bevan; Clayton Lewis; James McGarry...?

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                            Woud

Ingham   Brotherton?   Cacace   McGarry

                              Bell

                 Singh              Lewis

Patterson             Bevan            Rogerson   

McCowatt

Eli Just

Henry Cameron

Dyer

Jake Porter

Not sure who else

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I don't believe it will be run in conjunction with the Pacific Games again. Later in the year.

Here are some names.

GK Cam Brown, Jacob Clark, Josh Dijkstra, Ellis Hare-Reid, Zac Jones, Nicholas Milner, Aidan Munford, Keegan Smith, Conor Tracey, Michael Woud

DF Hunter Ashworth, Liberato Cacace, Alex Clayton, Reese Cox, Boyd Curry, Ben Deeley, Dylan de Jong, Jack Henry-Sinclair, Dane Ingham, Luke Johnson, Matthew Jones, Kelvin Kalua, Sean Liddicoat, Jacob Masseurs, Liam Moore, Sam Philip, Nando Pijnaker, Josh Rogerson, Jordan Spain, Troy Tapsell, Emlyn Wellsmore, Dalton Wilkins, Jake Williams, Liam Williams, Dylan Wood, Liam Wood, Trevor Zwetsloot

MF Joe Bell, Dylan Burns, Henry Cameron, Oliver Duncan, Moses Dyer, Willem Ebbinge, Callan Elliot, Xavier Green, Eli Just, Clayton Lewis, Callum McCowatt, Hayden McHenery, Lachie McIsaac, Dylan Morris, Owen Parker-Price, Jake Porter, Kieran Richards, Dane Schnell, Kingsley Sinclair, Sarpreet Singh, Luke Tongue, Leon van den Hoven, Ollie Whyte, Dominic Wooldridge

FW Jorge Akers, Jack Anderson, Finn Ballard-McBride, Myer Bevan, Noah Billingsley, Seth Clark, Alex Connor-McClean, Matt Conroy, George Debenham, Ihaia Delaney, Stafford Dowling, Alex Frank, Jordan Lamb, Tinashe Marowa, Max Mata, James McGarry, Jake Mechell, Matt Palmer, Conor Probert, JJ Richards, Logan Rogerson, Charles Spragg, Will Stephen, Ben Wade

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Lucas Scimria a squaddie in Serie C, maybe eligible.

Turns 20, 5th January next year.

Born in NZ. 

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How is Hunter Ashworth going in the states? Big lad by memory, 6 ft 3... not sure if he was technically that good, but came across full hearted.

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

How is Hunter Ashworth going in the states? Big lad by memory, 6 ft 3... not sure if he was technically that good, but came across full hearted.

Was nominated for a defender of the week a week or so ago in his Big West Conference, after serving a ban for 5 yellows. Hs managed a few goals too. The way they uses stats for everything there is mind boggling, so not sure how that translates into quality on the field.

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I don't believe it will be run in conjunction with the Pacific Games again. Later in the year.

Here are some names.

GK Cam Brown, Jacob Clark, Josh Dijkstra, Ellis Hare-Reid, Zac Jones, Nicholas Milner, Aidan Munford, Keegan Smith, Conor Tracey, Michael Woud

DF Hunter Ashworth, Liberato Cacace, Alex Clayton, Reese Cox, Boyd Curry, Ben Deeley, Dylan de Jong, Jack Henry-Sinclair, Dane Ingham, Luke Johnson, Matthew Jones, Kelvin Kalua, Sean Liddicoat, Jacob Masseurs, Liam Moore, Sam Philip, Nando Pijnaker, Josh Rogerson, Jordan Spain, Troy Tapsell, Emlyn Wellsmore, Dalton Wilkins, Jake Williams, Liam Williams, Dylan Wood, Liam Wood, Trevor Zwetsloot

MF Joe Bell, Dylan Burns, Henry Cameron, Oliver Duncan, Moses Dyer, Willem Ebbinge, Callan Elliot, Xavier Green, Eli Just, Clayton Lewis, Callum McCowatt, Hayden McHenery, Lachie McIsaac, Dylan Morris, Owen Parker-Price, Jake Porter, Kieran Richards, Dane Schnell, Kingsley Sinclair, Sarpreet Singh, Luke Tongue, Leon van den Hoven, Ollie Whyte, Dominic Wooldridge

FW Jorge Akers, Jack Anderson, Finn Ballard-McBride, Myer Bevan, Noah Billingsley, Seth Clark, Alex Connor-McClean, Matt Conroy, George Debenham, Ihaia Delaney, Stafford Dowling, Alex Frank, Jordan Lamb, Tinashe Marowa, Max Mata, James McGarry, Jake Mechell, Matt Palmer, Conor Probert, JJ Richards, Logan Rogerson, Charles Spragg, Will Stephen, Ben Wade

Wow Andrew. Some names for me to find out more about. Cheers. ?

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Tournament age grade teams are always interesting constructions. Form vs potential. Building for the future vs tournament results. Do NZF have a formula? Professionals first draft; handa prems then lower grades. How do US universities fit into that? Seeing players domestically vs trusting overseas reports. Injuries and club commitments. It sounds like a fun task.

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The Olyroos will face New Zealand U23s in a pair of friendlies next month under caretaker coach Gary van Egmond as they prepare to qualify for Tokyo 2020.

Australia will take on Kiwis at Wollongong's WIN Stadium on Friday September 6 and then again at Campbelltown Stadium the following Monday.

The matches will be warm ups ahead of flying to Thailand in January for the 2020 AFC U23 Championship where the top three teams will host nation Japan as Asia’s representatives for Tokyo 2020.

New Zealand’s U23s will face a similar task in Fiji in September to participate in the 2019 OFC U23 Championship where the overall winner will earn Oceania’s spot in Tokyo 2020.

But the games will also see coach Graham Arnold relinquish control of the Olyroos for these games while he juggles World Cup qualifying for the Socceroos.

Assistant coach Gary Van Egmond has been given temporary control of the Olyroos for the two friendlies to allow Arnold to focus on the road to Qatar 2022.

However Arnold will retake the reins for the tournament in Thailand in January, said the FFA today.

“We are pleased with how this structure will work over the next six months,” Arnold added.

"With Gary working with the Young Socceroos as well as the under-23s, and myself, Rene Meulensteen and Tony Vidmar focusing on the Socceroos but keeping a close eye on the U23s, the fluid communication and pathway between the squads will be maintained.

“The boys did a great job in Cambodia in March to qualify for the 2020 AFC U23 Championship.

“Now it’s important that we get them together regularly in the lead up to January so that they are as prepared as possible to achieve the target of earning a place at the Olympics."

FFA CEO David Gallop added: “We are delighted to have been able to schedule two international friendlies for our under 23s on home soil ahead of the 2020 AFC U23 Championship.

“These fixtures, combined with further games and camps later in 2019, will help set the platform for the team’s bid to qualify for Tokyo.

“Importantly, the fixtures will also provide supporters in Wollongong and Campbelltown with the chance to watch some of Australia’s brightest young footballers on their doorstep.”

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So Sept 6th and then Sept 9th for Ollyroos v Ollywhites 

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/power-sharing-deal-on-olyroos-529102

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Would have liked to have had a game here and a game there... case of little fish just happy to be invited?

Are these games scheduled for international breaks?

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

Would have liked to have had a game here and a game there... case of little fish just happy to be invited?

Are these games scheduled for international breaks?

Yes.
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Does anyone have a idea of what the starting line ups will be?

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Royz wrote:

Does anyone have a idea of what the starting line ups will be?

Yes.

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U-23 men’s identification camp squad

Goalkeepers
Conor Tracey (Central United)
Cam Brown (Central United)
Aidan Munford (Central Coast Mariners)

Defenders
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Ben Mata (Wellington Olympic)
Lewis Miccio (Manly United)
Josh Jones (Central United)
Kelvin Kalua (Eastern Suburbs)
Rob Tipelu (Onehunga Sports)
Jorge Akers (Miramar Rangers)
Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical)

Midfielders
Hayden McHenery (Brisbane City)
Yousif Ali (Forrest Hill Milford United)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Lachie McIsaac (Birkenhead United)
Gianni Stensness (Unattached)
Leon van den Hoven (Eastern Suburbs)
Kingsley Sinclair (Eastern Suburbs)

Forwards
Maro Bonsu-Maro (Central United)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Ihaia Delaney (Western Suburbs)
Jake Mechell (Eastern Suburbs)
Stafford Dowling (Onehunga Sports)
Charles Spragg (Eastern Suburbs)
Byron Heath (Lower Hutt City)
Tyson Savas (Unattached)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Ben Wade (Caversham) 

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Do you think Singh will come back for the friendly? Im not sure his club will let him go.

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Royz wrote:

Do you think Singh will come back for the friendly? Im not sure his club will let him go.

Don't think so, Bayern II have had a real rocky start to life in the 3. Liga so they'll want him

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mrsmiis wrote:

Royz wrote:

Do you think Singh will come back for the friendly? Im not sure his club will let him go.

Don't think so, Bayern II have had a real rocky start to life in the 3. Liga so they'll want him

Really it's a bit pointless bring any U23 players based in Europe, back to play the Olyroos. 

These 2 games are warm ups for the Olympic qualifying tourney in PNG. That tourney is not in a FIFA window.

Maybe some players in Euro youth setups, or out on loan etc (Mata, Oli Whyte, Ellis-Reid, Just, Wilkins the Torslanda crowd) - could be released for PNG, but Singh certainly won't be. So pointless bringing the likes of him, Woud etc all the way back to Australia, when he won't be in PNG a few weeks later. Very much doubt Bayern would be happy about it either.

Buckingham must be scrambling around making ph calls, trying to work out who he can call up, as much as any coaching planning.

Good news is that the very much U23 'B' team he took to Samoa, proved the big names may not be needed.

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Squad looking good for the upcoming Aussie games. Obviously no Nix boys or Singh. 

Michael Woud (Willem II, Netherlands)
Conor Tracey (Central United)
Cameron Brown (Central United)
Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical)
Hunter Ashworth (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
George Stanger (Hamilton Academical, Scotland)
Billy Jones (University of Nevada, Las Vegas, USA)
Dalton Wilkins (FC Helsingor, Denmark)
James McGarry (Willem II, Netherlands)
Dane Schnell (Western Springs)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Gianni Stensness (Unattached)
Noah Billingsley (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Oliver Whyte (Rio Ave FC, Portugal)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Max Mata (Nomme Kalju, Estonia)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Clayton Lewis (Scodhorpe United, England)
Elijah Just (FC Helsingor, Denmark)

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Surprised that likes of Woud, McGarry and Lewis have been picked. These Olyroos games from memory fall in a FIFA window (games Sept 6th & Sept 9th), when for Woud & McGarry - Willem II will be inactive. However the later Olympic qualifying tourney in Fiji falls outside of a FIFA window.

What's the point of bringing them down under, if their club is unlikely to later release them for the Olympic qualifying tourney.

Even more surprised Scun-thorpe have agreed to release Lewis. They have a League Two game Sept 8th. League Two doesn't stop for windows. Lewis is also still on the injured list.

I think El Grap pointed out clubs don't need to release players for international U23 football, even in FIFA windows.

So some of the domestic guys who went to Samoa, get dropped for these plum Olyroos games, but then likely get invited back in again to go to Fiji. If that happens not sure how they may feel? 'You have little chance of being at the Olympics, when all our first choice, plus 3 over U23 players will be available, but we just need you for a couple of unfashionable tourneys in the Islands before we discard you again!'.

I guess the other narrative is, a chance to stand out, and make a name for oneself.

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Not sure those kids in for Samoa and Fiji but out for Aus and Olympics can take it as anything but a chance to show what they have got. Fact is they are not shining as brightly as those that might go to the 'big' games, so they need to take what chances they can. Part and parcel of being a footballer. You want to be at the big games, do the work, make the sacrifices, be the best. 

Besides, they still get to tell their grandkids they played for NZU23. And who says a couple of weeks in Samoa in July and Fiji for the tail end of winter is such an unfashionable place to be!

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Some kids would just love to stick it to the Aussies I'm guessing

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Will the two games vs Australia be televised? Can't remember what that black fern on a white top looks like anymore.

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JamesBo wrote:

Squad looking good for the upcoming Aussie games. Obviously no Nix boys or Singh. 

Michael Woud (Willem II, Netherlands)
Conor Tracey (Central United)
Cameron Brown (Central United)
Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical)
Hunter Ashworth (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
George Stanger (Hamilton Academical, Scotland)
Billy Jones (University of Nevada, Las Vegas, USA)
Dalton Wilkins (FC Helsingor, Denmark)
James McGarry (Willem II, Netherlands)
Dane Schnell (Western Springs)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Gianni Stensness (Unattached)
Noah Billingsley (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Oliver Whyte (Rio Ave FC, Portugal)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Max Mata (Nomme Kalju, Estonia)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Clayton Lewis (Scodhorpe United, England)
Elijah Just (FC Helsingor, Denmark)

Are there age parameters for U23?  Can u be 18 for instance?

Why is it is "obviously" no Nix players out of my ignorance?

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I was going to say 'because pre-season' but realistically it's a month before season start, the Aus clubs will be releasing players (you assume) so probably not that.

Now thinking Des is assuming they won't be available for the qualifiers and wants as much of the squad he will take to the qualifiers together for this.

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Boro4eva wrote:

JamesBo wrote:

Squad looking good for the upcoming Aussie games. Obviously no Nix boys or Singh. 

Michael Woud (Willem II, Netherlands)
Conor Tracey (Central United)
Cameron Brown (Central United)
Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical)
Hunter Ashworth (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
George Stanger (Hamilton Academical, Scotland)
Billy Jones (University of Nevada, Las Vegas, USA)
Dalton Wilkins (FC Helsingor, Denmark)
James McGarry (Willem II, Netherlands)
Dane Schnell (Western Springs)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Gianni Stensness (Unattached)
Noah Billingsley (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Oliver Whyte (Rio Ave FC, Portugal)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Max Mata (Nomme Kalju, Estonia)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Clayton Lewis (Scodhorpe United, England)
Elijah Just (FC Helsingor, Denmark)

Are there age parameters for U23?  Can u be 18 for instance?

Why is it is "obviously" no Nix players out of my ignorance?

Anyone born Jan 1, 1997 or later is the pool for the Olympics. I know AFC gets funky with some of its age-group tournaments, going by ages at the time of them, rather than at the final world tournament they are leading up to, so Australia might play by different rules. 

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Its only Australia so I doubt Des is taking this game serious, that's why he is bring out a 3rd string team together for these matches.

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Royz wrote:

Its only Australia so I doubt Des is taking this game serious, that's why he is bring out a 3rd string team together for these matches.

Strange comment , given how many All Whites and top players are selected?

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Boro4eva wrote:

JamesBo wrote:

Squad looking good for the upcoming Aussie games. Obviously no Nix boys or Singh. 

Michael Woud (Willem II, Netherlands)
Conor Tracey (Central United)
Cameron Brown (Central United)
Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical)
Hunter Ashworth (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
George Stanger (Hamilton Academical, Scotland)
Billy Jones (University of Nevada, Las Vegas, USA)
Dalton Wilkins (FC Helsingor, Denmark)
James McGarry (Willem II, Netherlands)
Dane Schnell (Western Springs)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Gianni Stensness (Unattached)
Noah Billingsley (UC Santa Barbara, USA)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Oliver Whyte (Rio Ave FC, Portugal)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Max Mata (Nomme Kalju, Estonia)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Clayton Lewis (Scodhorpe United, England)
Elijah Just (FC Helsingor, Denmark)

Are there age parameters for U23?  Can u be 18 for instance?

Why is it is "obviously" no Nix players out of my ignorance?

Anyone born Jan 1, 1997 or later is the pool for the Olympics. I know AFC gets funky with some of its age-group tournaments, going by ages at the time of them, rather than at the final world tournament they are leading up to, so Australia might play by different rules. 

Thanx.

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If, yes if, we qualify for the Olympics through the tough Island conditions, I wonder if Cacace, Eliott and Waine will come into the mix? Being professional footballers they must have the edge on Northern Premiership players - even if those NPL players are older by 2-3 years.

McCowatt and Singh?

If we get through - what are peoples picks for the 3 overage players?

Is Woud better than Marinovic? 

Reid (injuries considered), Thomas (Injuries considered), Wood for a solid spine?

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If injuries are ok it will always be those three. Would make a great team

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Australia U-23 24-Player Squad v New Zealand U-23
Name Club, State
Nathaniel ATKINSON Melbourne City FC
Keanu BACCUS Western Sydney Wanderers FC
George BLACKWOOD Adelaide United FC
Nick D’AGOSTINO Perth Glory FC
Daniel DE SILVA Central Coast Mariners FC
Thomas DENG Melbourne Victory FC
Denis GENREAU Melbourne City FC
Alex GERSBACH AGF, Denmark
Thomas GLOVER Melbourne City FC
Tom HEWARD-BELLE Sydney FC
Daniel MARGUSH Adelaide United FC
Riley McGREE Adelaide United FC
Connor METCALFE Melbourne City FC
Tass MOURDOUKOUTAS Western Sydney Wanderers FC
Aiden O’NEILL Brisbane Roar FC
Connor O’TOOLE Brisbane Roar FC
Sebastian PASQUALI Western United FC
Reno PISCOPO Wellington Phoenix FC
Kye ROWLES Central Coast Mariners FC
Tate RUSSELL Western Sydney Wanderers FC
Apostolos STAMATELOPOULOS Western United FC
Ivan VUJICA Western United FC
Lachlan WALES Melbourne City FC
Brandon WILSON Perth Glory FC
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Interesting that Piscopo is named but no Phoenix players in the NZ side.

Phillip Rollo

Also he (Talay) mentioned that while no Phoenix player has been included in the NZ Under-23 squad to play two games against Australia, they will be available for selection for the Olympic Games qualifiers, which are more important for NZF anyway.
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Hard News wrote:

Interesting that Piscopo is named but no Phoenix players in the NZ side.

Phillip Rollo

Also he (Talay) mentioned that while no Phoenix player has been included in the NZ Under-23 squad to play two games against Australia, they will be available for selection for the Olympic Games qualifiers, which are more important for NZF anyway.

Interview up where he explains a bit 

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Lachlan Brook replaces Piscopo (injury) in the Ollyroo squad.

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how does Billingsley continue to get selected for these things??

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thought might have been harsh so checked his stats...  played as a defender last year!!

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NZ squad named for OFC Olympic qualifiers:

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/81493

Quite different to the squad currently in Oz to play the Olyroos.

"...includes four All Whites in Clayton Lewis, Myer Bevan, Liberato Cacace and Logan Rogerson.

There are eight members of the squad who represented New Zealand at the FIFA U-20 World Cup in Poland, and 10 of the squad who won gold at the Pacific Games in Samoa.

...pleased to have four Wellington Phoenix reps – Cacace, Callum McCowatt, Ben Waine, and Callan Elliot – available for selection after some conversations with the A-League side."

Out go the Europe-based Woud, Wilkins, Stanger, McGarry, Mata and Just.

Also locally-based Jordan Spain (Cashmere Technical) is omitted.

In come the four Nix players plus Paulsen (Lower Hutt) and Tipelu (Onehunga) 

New Zealand squad for the OFC U-23 Championship
Connor Tracey (Central United)
Cameron Brown (Central United)
Alexander Paulsen (Lower Hutt City)
Jake Porter (Onehunga Sports)
Callan Elliot (Wellington Phoenix)
Sean Liddicoat (Coastal Spirit)
Rob Tipelu (Onehunga Sports)
Hunter Ashworth (University of San Francisco, USA)
William Jones (University of Nevada, Las Vegas, USA)
Liberato Cacace (Wellington Phoenix)
Dylan de Jong (Eastern Suburbs)
Dane Schnell (Western Springs)
Gianni Stensness (Central Coast Mariners, Australia)
Clayton Lewis (Scodhorpe United, England)
Oliver Whyte (Rio Ave FC, Portugal)
Logan Rogerson (Unattached)
Ben Waine (Wellington Phoenix)
Myer Bevan (Western Springs)
Callum McCowatt (Wellington Phoenix)
Noah Billingsley (UC Santa Barbara, USA)

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