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FFA on Thin Ice in Asia.

Looks like written before the FFA backed the incumbent head of AFC

Sickening Says Foster

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Blew.2 wrote:

FFA on Thin Ice in Asia.

Looks like written before the FFA backed the incumbent head of AFC

Sickening Says Foster

Maybe dump Australia back into Oceania. Would solve some of the A-League problems (we'd be in the same confederation) and our national teams would start playing competitive games against each other. What's not to like? 

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WE have Plonker of the month?

DG explains that commercial incentives from Foxtel ultimately contributed to teams from Sydney & Melbourne being added in current round of expansion. HAL needs to move to 14 teams, and TAS would be better placed in next round, possibly in next 2-3 years #FFACommunitySummit

— Football Australia (@FFA) March 21, 2019
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They are going for the gold right up uptil they possibly cannot grab any more from this source.

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scribbler wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

FFA on Thin Ice in Asia.

Looks like written before the FFA backed the incumbent head of AFC

Sickening Says Foster

Maybe dump Australia back into Oceania. Would solve some of the A-League problems (we'd be in the same confederation) and our national teams would start playing competitive games against each other. What's not to like? 

There is no way Australia want to come back to Oceania. They will do everything they can to stay in Asia. As author says an expanded 48 team WC with 8 Asian spots should appease the Gulf Nations. They are the ones who seem to have a problem with Oz, not the East Asian powerhouses like Japan, Korea or China.

Actually for NZ Football/AWs Asia splitting in two, and OFC joining East Asia would be a good thing.

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Someone had mention the Rabbit

But I’m lead to believe contracts have Pro/Rel out clause

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Blew.2 wrote:

Someone had to mention the Rabbit

But I’m lead to believe contracts have Pro/Rel out clause

  FFA talk down the storm
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AAFC still planning for 2020 for 2nd Tier competition

"Now the Association of Australian Football Clubs - representing the NPL clubs bidding to join the second tier and potentially the A-League - insist they still see The Championship launching in 2020...and have high hopes for promotion and relegation to follow."

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The Fan is still spinning

In response to an extremely perceptive question from the floor [Who asked that, Adrian? Was it by any chance...you? - Ed], Nikou said that in the absence of a breach of conditions, Central Coast Mariners (like all current Australian clubs) were guaranteed their place in the A-League until 2034.

Seconds later there was pandemonium as the penny dropped. Michael Lynch and Tom Smithies were all over him, demanding to know exactly what that meant for promotion / relegation, and his answer couldn’t have been clearer.

"Under the current licences all Australian based teams have a right to be in the A-League until 2034. ...there is no prospect of promotion and relegation until then."

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2019 FFA Melbourne Community Summit  

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A Few Gems: DG - Gollop  GOR - O'Rouke

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If every Phoenix home game was a 3pm Saturday kick off, we'd get the families along and being only 1pm over there it would be a great entree into a Saturday triple header. Cant Fox aka Ffa, see that? A win win for the Nix, Fox, FFA, Fans and players.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

If every Phoenix home game was a 3pm Saturday kick off, we'd get the families along and being only 1pm over there it would be a great entree into a Saturday triple header. Cant Fox aka Ffa, see that? A win win for the Nix, Fox, FFA, Fans and players.

A 1pm AEST time KO on a Saturday in Australia (12pm in QLD & about 10am in WA), would be a big time viewing ratings loser for Foxtel, esp being over the summer months.

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coochiee wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

If every Phoenix home game was a 3pm Saturday kick off, we'd get the families along and being only 1pm over there it would be a great entree into a Saturday triple header. Cant Fox aka Ffa, see that? A win win for the Nix, Fox, FFA, Fans and players.

A 1pm AEST time KO on a Saturday in Australia (12pm in QLD & about 10am in WA), would be a big time viewing ratings loser for Foxtel, esp being over the summer months.

Found the head for the Chicken 

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Yeah, good call. I've personal experience of what he's going through with the Alzheimer's side of things. It's sharke, and no amount of money changes that.

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Interesting the  wispers got Radio to broadcast this 

"Just heard on the radio that the father in question was trying to get into the grandstand, obviously, without a ticket, and became very abusive to the security who were trying to stop him. Also, from what I heard, he had a carer with him and he was the one tossed not carer and daughter. Anyone care to verify this."

When it was

"What I understand of what happened is Rory has been taking his daughter to the same disabled toilet all season. There are apparently only 2 int he entire stadium, one at each end of the ground. He usually has access to the toilets at the northern-western corner but as security staff were being so over zealous about ticket requirements he was refused entry to that part of the ground and told to use the other disabled toilet. This would have involved taking his disabled daughter with Downs (who was already struggling with the commotion) on a massive lap of the oval. Rory quite rightly couldn't understand why he was being denied access to the disabled toilets when he was with one of the few people in the stadium who would actually be using them!" 

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The other Side of the story:

But police have now publicly challenged Mr Carroll’s version of events.

Assistant Commissioner Mark Walton tells Ray Hadley the man’s daughter wasn’t with him when the incident began.

“He was trying to get into the grandstand on his own. He pushed past some ushers and security.

“He was not permitted to go in there because he didn’t have a valid ticket for that area.”

Mr Carroll also claimed he and his daughter, who has Down syndrome, were kicked out of the ground.

AC Walton says that’s just not true either.

“He was alone asked to leave. Not his family or the other man that was with the children.

“I’m confident that if there was a need for a disabled person to go into an area where they didn’t have a ticket, they’d be facilitated.”

A police officer involved in the incident at Kogarah has contacted Ray Hadley, confirming Assistant Commissioner Walton’s version of events.

The Senior Constable, who asked to remain anonymous, says the man was on his own and not with his daughter when he “attempted to access an area he was not allowed into”.

“Once not allowed entry, he used physical force to push past a female security guard.

“Once several burly male security guards got involved, he stated he needed to get back to his children.

“At this point he used excuse and excuse not to be evicted from the stadium.”

There were 10 cops to throw out a father and his 3 daughters out of the football. What an absolute joke @ALeague #SYDvMVC #BigBlue #ALeague pic.twitter.com/IXwrmB5Cu8

— John Miles-Craig (@aussiejcmc) May 12, 2019

“As he was escorted without force, we were booed as if we were Paul Gallen playing at Suncorp Stadium.

“There’s always to sides to the story.” 

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He was alone asked to leave. Not his family or the other man that was with the children.

Great, he was perfectly welcome to leave his Down's Syndrome daughter behind, thanks NSWP.  

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Best line in the Police response - A police officer involved in the incident at Kogarah has contacted Ray Hadley, confirming Assistant Commissioner Walton’s version of events.

Raymond Morris Hadley OAM (born 1954) is an Australian talkback radio broadcaster and a rugby league football commentator for Channel Nine. 

Not trying to play it up to make the Footy violence seem "Tom Foolery" punch ups n all 

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This crap has been going on for years with Hatamoto and the like - it's the reason active support has been almost completely killed off. The fact that the FFA can't even bring themselves to unilaterally defend a kid is absolutely laughable.

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valeo wrote:

This crap has been going on for years with Hatamoto and the like - it's the reason active support has been almost completely killed off. The fact that the FFA can't even bring themselves to unilaterally defend a kid is absolutely laughable.

sounds like there is two sides to the story - varying accounts. Evictee says he was trying to take his daughter to the bathroom which was blocked off. Police and stadium staff say it was just him by himself trying to get into a restricted area. None of us were there so we can't exactly say who was in the wrong.

The FFA don't have a great record with treating fans fairly but this has the potential for a media beat up and offence being taken where its not necessarily based on anything factual.

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Cop's story makes no sense. Why do they think the father of a 10 year old special needs fan would be wanting to get into a restricted area "by himself".

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This is going to play out on a social network near you soon

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Doloras wrote:

Cop's story makes no sense. Why do they think the father of a 10 year old special needs fan would be wanting to get into a restricted area "by himself".

He has actually admitted that he was by himself - ostensibly to confirm that the toilet was in good enough condition for his daughter to use.

To be frank, neither side's story makes much sense.

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el grapadura wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Cop's story makes no sense. Why do they think the father of a 10 year old special needs fan would be wanting to get into a restricted area "by himself".

He has actually admitted that he was by himself - ostensibly to confirm that the toilet was in good enough condition for his daughter to use.

To be frank, neither side's story makes much sense.

I still can't understand why toilets spectators in that area have used all season were shut off, and people were expected to go to the other side of the ground (a few hundred metres around the stadium) to use a disabled toilet (this part hasn't been denied at all).  Not very access friendly.

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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-clubs-fear-another-season-under-ffa-control/news-story/a9e6ce3607a31100f0441c9e15f6d175

Concerns are mounting that soccer officials will fail to strike a deal to make the A-League independent of governing body Football Federation Australia by a June 30 deadline, with clubs and state federations at loggerheads.

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Yakcall wrote:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-clubs-fear-another-season-under-ffa-control/news-story/a9e6ce3607a31100f0441c9e15f6d175

Concerns are mounting that soccer officials will fail to strike a deal to make the A-League independent of governing body Football Federation Australia by a June 30 deadline, with clubs and state federations at loggerheads.

Absolutely shocking development.

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Aussie cant even agree amongst themselves,  a throwback to their heritage. Meanwhile the Phoenix get held to Ransom. Sky better come out with a decent financial offer.

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#ALeague clubs fear another season under FFA control thanks to State Feds by @JohnStensholt

John Stensholt12:00AM May 23, 2019
Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer doesn’t want another A-League season under FFA control
Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer doesn’t want another A-League season under FFA control
Concerns are mounting that soccer officials will fail to strike a deal to make the A-League independent of governing body Football Federation Australia by a June 30 deadline, with clubs and state federations at loggerheads.

Clubs have warned, if they do not wrest control of the league, it could experience another season of declining popularity and put at risk future sponsorship and commercial deals.

Western Sydney Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer, who is also the chairman of the clubs’ association, said it would be “catastrophic” for the A-League to experience another season under FFA management.

The looming June 30 deadline has galvanised the sport’s state and member federations, who have the majority say in a vote on a deal and are determined to extract financial and corporate governance concessions from the clubs.

Those include possible compensation flowing to the member federations, who are arguing for board representation on an independent league, a certain percentage of the league remaining owned by FFA and even club owners having to pay compensation to states when they sell their clubs.

Other sticking points between the clubs and federations remain the share from the $346 million TV revenue from Fox Sports, which still has four seasons to run on the current deal, commercial rights, ownership of intellectual property, structure of the new competition and the relationship between professional clubs and the game’s grassroots.

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What’s to stop the A League clubs breaking away from FFA and running the competition themselves. Plenty of precedence for that type of move in Aussie sport.

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I wish the clubs would just do it, this screwing around is just leaving everyone frustrated, clubs and fans. And frankly if some politically correct amateuirs feel their noses are not deep enough in the trough, they need to lose their ego and get on with promoting the game in a positive way. I think the "new" A League should actually kick off with 16 teams. 15 home and 15 away games. 

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What’s to stop the A League clubs breaking away from FFA and running the competition themselves. Plenty of precedence for that type of move in Aussie sport.

Where's the money gonna come from for that?

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What’s to stop the A League clubs breaking away from FFA and running the competition themselves. Plenty of precedence for that type of move in Aussie sport.

Apart from rugby league and Super League which eventually failed, what other examples?

World Series Cricket was 40 yrs ago, in an amateur era, with the best cricketers in the planet brought together.

Also both comps were effectively the highest level of their sport in the world at the time.

I can watch online football from at least 10 other leagues around the world of a better quality than the A League.

Any “rebel” splinter would fail

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FIFA will be watching with interest and could even step back into the ring.

Their has to be some backroom politicing going on between FFA and 

The Federations as in SLowy times.

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el grapadura wrote:

What’s to stop the A League clubs breaking away from FFA and running the competition themselves. Plenty of precedence for that type of move in Aussie sport.

Where's the money gonna come from for that?

negotiate a television contract, same as now.
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el grapadura wrote:

What’s to stop the A League clubs breaking away from FFA and running the competition themselves. Plenty of precedence for that type of move in Aussie sport.

Where's the money gonna come from for that?

negotiate a television contract, same as now.

What's the incentive for Fox to break a deal with the FFA worth c. $350m, open themselves to legal action, and negotiate a new deal with a brand new group, whose very survival depends on Fox wanting to engage with them in the very first place? I'll tell you what it is - 0. 

Especially in the current environment where Fox have told the NLWG that the they cannot operate on the assumption that the next TV deal for the league will be better than the current one, and that it may not even be as good as the current one. I imagine that the Fox stance is making the negotiations around the new league structure even more difficult than they originally would have been.

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