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Can I just say that Pawson was absolutely horrific. Probably the worst all round performance I've seen in a long time.

What a shame Pereira or Martial couldn't sneak one in. Not having Rashford is extremely frustrating. Looks like he'll be out for 2-3 months.

Desperately need midfielders.

On Bruno - Sporting are at the point where they barely have the capital to operate. They need to sell and they need the money. Yet here we are with a selling club trying to absolutely balls us. I hope we can hold out but I really hope we can sign the guy.

If we can't hold out against someone almost bankrupt we'll never be able to sign someone at a reasonable price ever again.

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20 Legend wrote:

If we can't hold out against someone almost bankrupt we'll never be able to sign someone at a reasonable price ever again.

We aren't signing anyone mate - maybe a loan, but even that's a stretch. 

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Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

If we can't hold out against someone almost bankrupt we'll never be able to sign someone at a reasonable price ever again.

We aren't signing anyone mate - maybe a loan, but even that's a stretch. 

https://sportwitness.co.uk/bruno-fernandes-man-united-look-saga-willingness-parrot-club-pr/

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Tekkers wrote:
Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

If we can't hold out against someone almost bankrupt we'll never be able to sign someone at a reasonable price ever again.

We aren't signing anyone mate - maybe a loan, but even that's a stretch. 

https://sportwitness.co.uk/bruno-fernandes-man-united-look-saga-willingness-parrot-club-pr/

That’s article basically says “United said Sporting we’re lying but sporting aren’t lying because Sporting said so”

I don’t think we’re haggling some bargain for some world class player. If we were other clubs would be lining up to get in on the action. United’s valuation doesn’t seem unreasonable, we just need to work on our unsettling player skills. 

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Nelfoos wrote:

I'll take it.

Brandon Williams is going to be our left back for a long, long time and I'm loving it. We have one of the best backup keepers in Romero and it was nice to see Mata and Matic looking influential. Hope Rashford is ok, but roll on Watford in the next round.

I know there is a lot of criticism and negativity but there are some positives, Brandon Williams being one of them.  He will have bad games as he builds experience but I hope you are right and he becomes our left back for a long time. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Hi


Oh sh*t, the liverpool fans have finally turned... God help us all hahahaha
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Just checking in, making sure everyone is ok. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Just checking in, making sure everyone is ok. 

 All good here
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Best thing about tonight was seeing all of Old Trafford standing and singing "Stand up if you hate the Glazers".

They've ruined our fudgeing football club. 

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We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

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20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

Should be - Manager has no ideas.

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Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

Should be - Manager has no ideas.

Has nothing to play with, not sure what ideas he's supposed to have. Club has failed him this transfer window. Really struggle to blame any of this on Ole when his players aren't good enough and Woodward won't buy him new ones.

Are we the 5th best squad in the league? I have to look at the table and say we're overperforming compared to the quality of players we're able to put on the park with many of our best players injured long term.

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Nelfoos wrote:
Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

Should be - Manager has no ideas.

Has nothing to play with, not sure what ideas he's supposed to have. Club has failed him this transfer window. Really struggle to blame any of this on Ole when his players aren't good enough and Woodward won't buy him new ones.

Are we the 5th best squad in the league? I have to look at the table and say we're overperforming compared to the quality of players we're able to put on the park with many of our best players injured long term.

I certainly agree that we are not the 5th best squad in the league.

No manager can fix this right now, but fact is Ole was never qualified to coach Utd.

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Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

Should be - Manager has no ideas.

Totally disagree. 

The manager has ideas and aspirations of what he would like to do, but with the skeleton squad he has available and the quality of those players he must surely always be reacting rather than trying to be proactive.

The players' ability looks so degraded because they have had to play most games, many while injured to some extent and in need of a rest. 

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Leggy wrote:
Nelfoos wrote:
Leggy wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

Should be - Manager has no ideas.

Has nothing to play with, not sure what ideas he's supposed to have. Club has failed him this transfer window. Really struggle to blame any of this on Ole when his players aren't good enough and Woodward won't buy him new ones.

Are we the 5th best squad in the league? I have to look at the table and say we're overperforming compared to the quality of players we're able to put on the park with many of our best players injured long term.

I certainly agree that we are not the 5th best squad in the league.

No manager can fix this right now, but fact is Ole was never qualified to coach Utd.

So you think that United's squad is not in the top 5 in the league, yet you think Ole should be doing better? 

And I think you miss the point that what United needed, in terms of a manager, was someone with more United experience than coaching experience. 

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This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

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paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

Wait, you mean a problem is nuanced and not easily solved? I simply don't believe it.

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paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

Decent points you make but geez that's an awful article
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paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

While i think there isn't a part of the club that is faultless, if you actually bought players to improve the squad, even more so when you sell players, then you will go a long way to improving things. 

Obviously the players need to be ones that the manager wants and for a price and wage that fits the desired business structure, but somewhere along the lines, the short term business aspect is going to have to be somewhat sacrificed for the long term benefit of the club. 

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Tekkers wrote:
paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

While i think there isn't a part of the club that is faultless, if you actually bought players to improve the squad, even more so when you sell players, then you will go a long way to improving things. 

Obviously the players need to be ones that the manager wants and for a price and wage that fits the desired business structure, but somewhere along the lines, the short term business aspect is going to have to be somewhat sacrificed for the long term benefit of the club. 

There in lies the major problem. The Glaziers are not going to let the business side be sacrificed. They know a good thing when they see it. One billion quid they have taken out of this club and Woodward is their hero.

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Leggy wrote:
Tekkers wrote:
paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

While i think there isn't a part of the club that is faultless, if you actually bought players to improve the squad, even more so when you sell players, then you will go a long way to improving things. 

Obviously the players need to be ones that the manager wants and for a price and wage that fits the desired business structure, but somewhere along the lines, the short term business aspect is going to have to be somewhat sacrificed for the long term benefit of the club. 

There in lies the major problem. The Glaziers are not going to let the business side be sacrificed. They know a good thing when they see it. One billion quid they have taken out of this club and Woodward is their hero.

If performances don't turn around at some point the business side will be sacrificed though, and then it may well be too little, too late to become the club we once were with less resources available to rebuild.

Just wish the Glazers and Woodward could see that but they aren't looking at anything except how fat their wallet is.

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paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

Without reading the article, but yes absolutely. Ultimately all of those come back to the CEO and beyond him the board and owners. Manchester United is (at least from the outside) a completely dysfunctional organisation.

Focussing a little tighter on the football. We have had such a balls up around players because after Moyes we completely abandoned United values to appease a certain segment of fans. LVG started by implement his rigorous, boring, disciplined system. Mourinho then not only threw out the remnants of United but he threw out the remnants of LVG as well.

We now have a manager who is setting us back on the right track. Hopefully he can stick around long enough to make sure that the next manager has a base of players that fit with the club's philosophy and more importantly the manager does as well.

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Nelfoos wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Tekkers wrote:
paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

While i think there isn't a part of the club that is faultless, if you actually bought players to improve the squad, even more so when you sell players, then you will go a long way to improving things. 

Obviously the players need to be ones that the manager wants and for a price and wage that fits the desired business structure, but somewhere along the lines, the short term business aspect is going to have to be somewhat sacrificed for the long term benefit of the club. 

There in lies the major problem. The Glaziers are not going to let the business side be sacrificed. They know a good thing when they see it. One billion quid they have taken out of this club and Woodward is their hero.

If performances don't turn around at some point the business side will be sacrificed though, and then it may well be too little, too late to become the club we once were with less resources available to rebuild.

Just wish the Glazers and Woodward could see that but they aren't looking at anything except how fat their wallet is.

May, 2018

"During United's quarterly conference call with shareholders, Woodward was asked if the improved performance in the Premier League this season had played a part in another bumper set of financial numbers for the world's richest club.

Woodward replied: "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business.""

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Tekkers wrote:
Nelfoos wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Tekkers wrote:
paulm wrote:

This piece covers a few bases.

https://www.football365.com/news/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-solution-man-utd-opinion

Perhaps the issue isn't solely recruitment, injuries, the Manager, the quality of players, but actually a little bit of all of them?

While i think there isn't a part of the club that is faultless, if you actually bought players to improve the squad, even more so when you sell players, then you will go a long way to improving things. 

Obviously the players need to be ones that the manager wants and for a price and wage that fits the desired business structure, but somewhere along the lines, the short term business aspect is going to have to be somewhat sacrificed for the long term benefit of the club. 

There in lies the major problem. The Glaziers are not going to let the business side be sacrificed. They know a good thing when they see it. One billion quid they have taken out of this club and Woodward is their hero.

If performances don't turn around at some point the business side will be sacrificed though, and then it may well be too little, too late to become the club we once were with less resources available to rebuild.

Just wish the Glazers and Woodward could see that but they aren't looking at anything except how fat their wallet is.

May, 2018

"During United's quarterly conference call with shareholders, Woodward was asked if the improved performance in the Premier League this season had played a part in another bumper set of financial numbers for the world's richest club.

Woodward replied: "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business.""

I remember that. Pretty naive. If people stop paying to watch, buying Utd products then we will see what happens.

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Even if you can handle things without european revenue, not being in those competitions will eventually start to hurt you seriously.

That's the position Arsenal are currently in too.

If we don't get back to the Champions League sometime soon then FFP and our wage bill will become a massive issue.

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If the masses (esp meaning those who are not firmly aligned to a particular club) buy the merch of other clubs because they are consistently seen to be more successful, then it must have an impact on the commercial side.  I imagine the new football fan coming in will not be choosing United at the moment.

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If the masses (esp meaning those who are not firmly aligned to a particular club) buy the merch of other clubs because they are consistently seen to be more successful, then it must have an impact on the commercial side.  I imagine the new football fan coming in will not be choosing United at the moment.

I get what you're saying but I have always found it odd that sooooo many of my friends and workmates support Liverpool, by far more than any other club and yet they haven't won the league in 30 years so you would have to be around 40 years old to actually know what it is like to be Champions and most of these fans I see wearing Liverpool gear aren't. It doesn't appear to have affected people picking them as their team. I suppose in that 30 years, they have consistently still won knock out competitions.

United are still seen as one of the biggest clubs in the world and I remember during their drought period up until 1993 that they were still a massively supported club so maybe the current form won't have that much of an effect.

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If the masses (esp meaning those who are not firmly aligned to a particular club) buy the merch of other clubs because they are consistently seen to be more successful, then it must have an impact on the commercial side.  I imagine the new football fan coming in will not be choosing United at the moment.

I get what you're saying but I have always found it odd that sooooo many of my friends and workmates support Liverpool, by far more than any other club and yet they haven't won the league in 30 years so you would have to be around 40 years old to actually know what it is like to be Champions and most of these fans I see wearing Liverpool gear aren't. It doesn't appear to have affected people picking them as their team. I suppose in that 30 years, they have consistently still won knock out competitions.

United are still seen as one of the biggest clubs in the world and I remember during their drought period up until 1993 that they were still a massively supported club so maybe the current form won't have that much of an effect.

Not as much exposure in those days compared to todays social media-- Facebook Twitter etc.

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20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

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Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

Some sensible comments at last.

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Leggy wrote:
Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

Some sensible comments at last.

Because you didn't make them? ;).

But not really...

Ole has not held back playing youth, why would he hold back playing the ones Rusty listed? For starters, Garner and Levitt have both been injured. Gomes won't sign a contract and at this stage obviously isn't that good. (Sure he'll improve, but unless he is literally going to change games for us he isn't worth developing)

Pogba and Rashford situation, definitely not great. But hindsight is everything. If he takes it slower on, say, Pogba's return and performances are still sharke then fans will be on his back as well.

You guys are asking for the impossible and ignoring Ole's positives. Like actually some semblance of a plan to actually turn the club in the right direction.

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think other managers could do better with this team. Pep and Klopp wouldn't have a chance with the current squad.

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Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

You think Ole should be doing better, with this squad than the current 5th place, still in both cups (for now) and topped the Europa group? The squad is worse than the one Jose couldn't do better with. 

I also didn't know that Ole was head of the medical team too? The medical team will say who is fit and Ole picks the team from that advice. Clearly the medical team are making some risky assessments, but when you only have two senior strikers then you have limited options. Or when you have one fit proper CM in Fred, then you will more likely play Pogba. You also cant pin injuries to Bailly, Rojo, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Dalot and the first time to Pogba, on him. So lets not confuse causation with correlation

I suppose the question is, would you rather Ole have played Greenwood, Chong/Gomes (both of which are having contract difficulties despite Ole wanting to keep them), Levitt and Garner more and be worse in the table, or be where we are right now. And I think most would stick with the current on field performances because the issues dont lie with Ole and most of the players. 

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20 Legend wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

Some sensible comments at last.

Because you didn't make them? ;).

But not really...

Ole has not held back playing youth, why would he hold back playing the ones Rusty listed? For starters, Garner and Levitt have both been injured. Gomes won't sign a contract and at this stage obviously isn't that good. (Sure he'll improve, but unless he is literally going to change games for us he isn't worth developing)

Pogba and Rashford situation, definitely not great. But hindsight is everything. If he takes it slower on, say, Pogba's return and performances are still sharke then fans will be on his back as well.

You guys are asking for the impossible and ignoring Ole's positives. Like actually some semblance of a plan to actually turn the club in the right direction.

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think other managers could do better with this team. Pep and Klopp wouldn't have a chance with the current squad.

You obviously don't read what I have been saying for years. The squad is not good enough and Pep or Klopp could not do better.

I can't be bothered going back but YOU were one of many that said I was wrong when I mentioned this.

What I have said is that Ole's CV was never good enough for an EPL managers job, never mind Utd His record is the worst of any Utd manager ever. As mentioned I doubt anyone can do better right now but if he lasts the season I will be surprised.

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Tekkers wrote:
Rusty Dunks wrote:
20 Legend wrote:

We should have been 3-0 at half time. 

Players are buggered. Manager has no options.

I'll start this off by saying that the whole problem with United at the minute is the ownership. They're only interested in their dividends, and as long as Ed gets that for them then they are wiping their arses with Man U branded toilet paper.

Ole is neither the problem nor the solution to what is going on.

However.....

Ole has not, overall, made the most of the situation. You say he has no options, but he rushed Pogba back who got an injury. He didn't rest Rashford, who picked up an injury. He kept McTominay on the field while he was injured. He hasn't trusted the likes of Garner, Gomes, Levitt, Ramazani, etc, which would have a) bulked the squad out, and b) either prevented or minimised the impact of the injuries. 

You think Ole should be doing better, with this squad than the current 5th place, still in both cups (for now) and topped the Europa group? The squad is worse than the one Jose couldn't do better with. 

I also didn't know that Ole was head of the medical team too? The medical team will say who is fit and Ole picks the team from that advice. Clearly the medical team are making some risky assessments, but when you only have two senior strikers then you have limited options. Or when you have one fit proper CM in Fred, then you will more likely play Pogba. You also cant pin injuries to Bailly, Rojo, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Dalot and the first time to Pogba, on him. So lets not confuse causation with correlation

I suppose the question is, would you rather Ole have played Greenwood, Chong/Gomes (both of which are having contract difficulties despite Ole wanting to keep them), Levitt and Garner more and be worse in the table, or be where we are right now. And I think most would stick with the current on field performances because the issues dont lie with Ole and most of the players.  

Points wise, we're as close to a relegation battle as we are to a Champions League spot. It's not our position that's the inherent issue, it's the general feeling of malaise about the Club on and off the field. Ole can't do a lot about off the field, but he's 6/10 at best for on the field issues. 

There's no hindsight at all about his injury management - Ole was under pressure, and rushed back injured players (or kept them on). 

Garner and Levitt have been recently injured, yes - but for less than a month. Neither have hardly set foot before or since with the first team. 

His use of substitutions are poor - often bringing people on far too late. There is also no clear way of playing. 

I feel that Ole is there to shepherd the team through the next season or two until the Club can offload their over paid / under performing players (Sanchez, Matic, Lingard, Jones, Rojo etc etc etc.... - oh, was anyone else surprised Bailly was retained??), and get things pointing in the right direction for the next manager....... but he only has himself to blame for many of the on-field failings. 

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What a weird circle... So Ole should have played more unproven academy products based on the medical assessment of the press and United should instead be in the relegation zone?

Meanwhile "proven winner" Mourinho and Pochettino's Tottenham are equal on points with a far better squad.

He's bringing on talent like Lingard too late...? Or, should he play Greenwood 90 minutes every week in which case you'd be accusing him of over using him?

This belief that sacking Ole will solve anything is like taking a payday loan out to pay another payday loan. You're just going to end up back at square one.

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I just feel like too many people are blaming Ole (or Jose or LVG before) for things that he does not have control of or just has to deal with the bad consequences. I think people are quick to forget that the same issues have been there pretty much since 2009 and only the fact that SAF was pretty much running the club himself was minimising the impact of these issues. 

Some short fun facts of since then:

  • In 2006, the Glazers related loan was $660m pounds. Since then interest, fees, dividends and other loan costs of more than $1.3billion has been paid. The 2019 loan balance is still over $450m. 
  • In 09-10 we sold Ronaldo. We bought Valencia, Obertan, Owen and Diouf, followed by Smalling and Chicharito the next season.
  • In 11-12 Scholes, Hargreaves, Brown and O'Shea left and we signed Young and Jones. 
  • In 14-15 Rio, Vidic, Evra, Fletcher, Nani and Chicharito left, we spent huge money on Di Maria and Falcao (plus some others that lasted a bit longer). Next season we signed Depay, Darmian, Schweiinsteiger and Schneiderlin, who are again are no longer here. 
  • In 18-19, after coming 2nd in the league, we bought Fred, Dalot and Grant. 

As people have rightly pointed out, none of the issues are in isolation but with the hand that these owners deal to the managers, you are unlikely to do much better than a 6/10

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almost 17 years

Ole has come in for criticism in the last few weeks from RVP,Gary Neville,Berbatov, Scholes,Roy Keane, Rio F to name a few. Plus of course people like Martin Keown and Ian Wright. 

All these people know nothing about football.

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