don't bring problems, bring solutions :)
imagine if a hospital had that model ;)
General A-League discussion
Not sure I get how the league can finish given many teams have players out of contract and I would think struggle to field decent teams. Doubt there will be many who will have a full squad. As much as I want to be able to finish off what was looking like our best season, think we are kidding ourselves if we think they will start where they finished off.
Wont be popular but I would rather they called the season done and just let everyone start preparing for the new season in October.Would think there could be an issue with grounds with the other codes given we arnt normally playing then.
They're talking to the PFA about getting an extension to contracts to finish off the season, you'd wonder how many foreign players went home and how many would want to come back for a couple of months considering they were stood down without pay.
Think that would also apply to any Aussie player stood down, given if they have other options you wouldn't think they would be keen on re-signing with the same team.
Not sure I get how the league can finish given many teams have players out of contract and I would think struggle to field decent teams. Doubt there will be many who will have a full squad. As much as I want to be able to finish off what was looking like our best season, think we are kidding ourselves if we think they will start where they finished off.
Wont be popular but I would rather they called the season done and just let everyone start preparing for the new season in October.Would think there could be an issue with grounds with the other codes given we arnt normally playing then.
don't bring problems, bring solutions :)
A-League TEAMS told to begin preparations for seasons end.
FFA suffers $6m hit after losing major A-League sponsor Hyundai https://t.co/LOTGQeoi2C
— Vince Rugari (@VinceRugari) May 12, 2020
Go after Sony as sponsers
FFA suffers $6m hit after losing major A-League sponsor Hyundai https://t.co/LOTGQeoi2C
— Vince Rugari (@VinceRugari) May 12, 2020
No. Ends after the delayed GF this year.
Central Coast stadium is one of the NRL's bubble-hubs for its season that kicks off 28 May. Draw released tomorrow.
Manly, Newcastle and the Warriors will call the Mariner's home home for the season.
Clubs that have stood down players/staff: Perth, CCM, Roar, Adelaide, Jets, WSW. Predicting WU and Nix next cabs off the rank. Leaving only the big 3.
I reckon there’s a better than even chance the next football season is sure to include some old NSL clubs.
There is no mechanism by which the Phoenix can "stand down" players/staff.
Closest thing to it would be redundancy, correct? But that would mean releasing them all from their contracts, meaning they'd all be free agents - not great if we hope to keep many of them around for next season.
Pretty sure that players aren't employees. Would be interesting to know what the terms of those contracts are, from memory they are all templated? Which means that the contracts that players in Aus are on would be the same as the contracts the Nix players on.
Really? That's a bit of sophistry. If you compare to say a plumber, the players can only have one job/person they work for and they don't have much flexibility about where and when they do a job.
An owner/operator plumber isn't the right comparison here. Essentially players (and coaching staff) are contractors. The background/admin staff I suspect could well be/are employees.
Central Coast stadium is one of the NRL's bubble-hubs for its season that kicks off 28 May. Draw released tomorrow.
Manly, Newcastle and the Warriors will call the Mariner's home home for the season.
If a hub is implemented to play the remaining regular season and finals games, FFA are now considering Queensland as a hub location. Venues likely to be considered include Suncorp Stadium, Cbus Super Stadium and Dolphin Stadium. [Courier Mail]https://t.co/lSU3dAYTCC
— A-League Hub (@AleagueHub) May 20, 2020
Wouldn't think the FFA have enough money to relocate the teams to a Queensland hub. Isnt Suncorp is contracted to the NRL
Wouldn't think the FFA have enough money to relocate the teams to a Queensland hub. Isnt Suncorp is contracted to the NRL
We'll be back to Robina Stadium, formerly known as Skilled Park
FFA are finalising plans to complete the A-League in Greater Sydney, with Jubilee Stadium and WIN Stadium most likely to be used. The regular season would conclude in a few weeks, before a finals series ending with a Grand Final no later than Aug 30. [SMH]https://t.co/fe3pvnia0d
— A-League Hub (@AleagueHub) May 21, 2020
Exclusive: A-League players asked to take 80% pay cut to see out season. https://t.co/XnxLkRGCVa
— Tom Smithies (@SmithiesTele) May 22, 2020
A-League players have been asked to take a pay cut of around 80% to complete this season, as the brutal financial realities created by the coronavirus epidemic take hold.
Sparking anger among the A-League players, the controversial proposal threatens to stymie efforts to establish a timetable to resume playing and complete the suspended season by the end of August.
Under a financial model put forward by Football Federation Australia, the governing body intends to keep almost all of the near $12 million FFA received from Fox Sports three weeks ago as the quarterly payment on its broadcast deal.
Normally each of the 11 clubs would receive around $800,000 every quarter from FFA, but the clubs have been told they will get a combined figure of less than $2 million if the offer on the table is ratified.
With little more than a week until players’ contracts expire at the end of May, at which point a number become free agents or switch clubs, there is mounting pressure to complete a deal before then and put in place contract extensions to cover the rest of the season.
Under the proposed share out, FFA will keep $5.7 million from the Fox Sports money, plus a further $2 million for national team funding.
Another $2 million will be kept to pay for the so-called hub, the centralised venue where all players will stay and play the games required to complete the A-League season. Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are all under consideration to host the hub.
That leaves less than $2 million for player payments, compared with the $8.8m normally distributed to the clubs each quarter.
Compounding the uncertainty, there is no pay deal in place for next season, amid huge uncertainty over the Fox Sports deal which runs for another three seasons.
All sports are expected to have to renegotiate their broadcast contracts thanks to the massive dislocation caused by the coronavirus, but the players have expressed concern over being asked to take a major pay cut now with no clarity over what future seasons will involve.
AFL players have agreed to take a 50% pay cut in the short term, and either 50% or 70% for the rest of the season depending on when games are recommenced.
A senior club source told The Daily Telegraph that clubs need to be briefed on why FFA wants to keep hold of the money, which relates to the first quarter of this year.
“As things stand we’re OK in hibernation, but all sorts of costs will be involved once we try to scale back up and prepare to play games again,” the source said.
Jon Didulica, chief executive of the players’ association, said: “This has been an incredibly challenging period for individual players and their absolute focus now is on returning to team training at the earliest possible opportunity.
“The PFA’s focus is on ensuring that the training and playing environment for their return is as safe as possible, given the prospect of increased exposure to contracting COVID-19 and the potential long-term health impact on athletes who contract it.
“We believe in the sport, we believe in the league and want to put what happens on our pitches – football – back at the heart of our game.”
FFA has been approached for comment.
Exclusive: A-League players asked to take 80% pay cut to see out season. https://t.co/XnxLkRGCVa
— Tom Smithies (@SmithiesTele) May 22, 2020
A-League players have been asked to take a pay cut of around 80% to complete this season, as the brutal financial realities created by the coronavirus epidemic take hold.
Sparking anger among the A-League players, the controversial proposal threatens to stymie efforts to establish a timetable to resume playing and complete the suspended season by the end of August.
Under a financial model put forward by Football Federation Australia, the governing body intends to keep almost all of the near $12 million FFA received from Fox Sports three weeks ago as the quarterly payment on its broadcast deal.
Normally each of the 11 clubs would receive around $800,000 every quarter from FFA, but the clubs have been told they will get a combined figure of less than $2 million if the offer on the table is ratified.
With little more than a week until players’ contracts expire at the end of May, at which point a number become free agents or switch clubs, there is mounting pressure to complete a deal before then and put in place contract extensions to cover the rest of the season.
Under the proposed share out, FFA will keep $5.7 million from the Fox Sports money, plus a further $2 million for national team funding.
Another $2 million will be kept to pay for the so-called hub, the centralised venue where all players will stay and play the games required to complete the A-League season. Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are all under consideration to host the hub.
That leaves less than $2 million for player payments, compared with the $8.8m normally distributed to the clubs each quarter.
Compounding the uncertainty, there is no pay deal in place for next season, amid huge uncertainty over the Fox Sports deal which runs for another three seasons.
All sports are expected to have to renegotiate their broadcast contracts thanks to the massive dislocation caused by the coronavirus, but the players have expressed concern over being asked to take a major pay cut now with no clarity over what future seasons will involve.
AFL players have agreed to take a 50% pay cut in the short term, and either 50% or 70% for the rest of the season depending on when games are recommenced.
A senior club source told The Daily Telegraph that clubs need to be briefed on why FFA wants to keep hold of the money, which relates to the first quarter of this year.
“As things stand we’re OK in hibernation, but all sorts of costs will be involved once we try to scale back up and prepare to play games again,” the source said.
Jon Didulica, chief executive of the players’ association, said: “This has been an incredibly challenging period for individual players and their absolute focus now is on returning to team training at the earliest possible opportunity.
“The PFA’s focus is on ensuring that the training and playing environment for their return is as safe as possible, given the prospect of increased exposure to contracting COVID-19 and the potential long-term health impact on athletes who contract it.
“We believe in the sport, we believe in the league and want to put what happens on our pitches – football – back at the heart of our game.”
FFA has been approached for comment.
Haha! We just dont believe the players are worth paying properly. Jeez
Wouldn't think the FFA have enough money to relocate the teams to a Queensland hub. Isnt Suncorp is contracted to the NRL
We'll be back to Robina Stadium, formerly known as Skilled Park
As mentioned before-- Qld borders will not be opening any time soon.
where's that 7.7 million going? There's no national team games anyway. Surely Fox wants a product for their money? Or is this just an FFA screw you to the clubs?
'We're going to keep 2 mil for the hub [no idea of the cost but probably fair enough], 2 mil for national team funding [despite it being unlikely we will be playing international football anytime soon] and 5.75 mil [because fudge you].'
hmmm.... Not sure if the clubs/players would wear that. Find it hard to believe that the story is credible.
Really shark for the players who've been stood down and without pay altogether to be told to come back at 20% pay. More like 10% once it's all said and done.
Also, Dome was saying on the pod that they'll struggle to meet the next payroll without the Fox money so the Phoenix might be in strife too.
Gatherings to increase to 100 from Friday including all sport. Nix back on the pitch
Gatherings to increase to 100 from Friday including all sport. Nix back on the pitch
The Phoenix have been able to be on the pitch since last Monday.
Gatherings to increase to 100 from Friday including all sport. Nix back on the pitch
The Phoenix have been able to be on the pitch since last Monday, FFA orders nonwithstanding.
Gatherings to increase to 100 from Friday including all sport. Nix back on the pitch
The Phoenix have been able to be on the pitch since last Monday.
Yep, pro sports teams count as a work place.
Almost half of the contracted players in the competition are due to become free agents after May 31, leaving them without a job but also able to move to other clubs in Australia or overseas.
Between the monetary and covid side of things - I can't see this season finishing??
Between the monetary and covid side of things - I can't see this season finishing??
If the season doesn't finish. Will FFA have to return the $12million payment to fox? Or part of that, meaning the clubs get nothing.
That's a big incentive to make it happen.
Not really surprising nothing has been sorted yet, I mean they only suspended the league in March no hurry is there.
You would have thought given they knew when the contracts expired this would have been top of their list to get sorted. Wont be a surprise if they come out and blame players and clubs.
UPDATED: FFA plan for the remainder of the A-League season to begin on July 18 with the grand final slated for Aug 22. The games would be in a hub with no fans and requires the agreement of Foxtel and the conclusion of a pay deal with players. [Telegraph]https://t.co/Acdp2xz3X3
— A-League Hub (@AleagueHub) May 26, 2020
That's just over a month. Lots of games for some teams. Squad depth will be a big factor in who eventually wins it. As there are bound to be injuries after the layoff. And not much time for recovery.
.@FFA CEO James Johnson confirmed today that FFA, Hyundai #ALeague clubs, and @thepfa have reached an agreement on a comprehensive plan for the re-start of the Hyundai #ALeague 2019/20 Season. https://t.co/GxYvzo9Abr
— Hyundai A-League (@ALeague) May 28, 2020
.@FFA CEO James Johnson confirmed today that FFA, Hyundai #ALeague clubs, and @thepfa have reached an agreement on a comprehensive plan for the re-start of the Hyundai #ALeague 2019/20 Season. https://t.co/GxYvzo9Abr
— Hyundai A-League (@ALeague) May 28, 2020
Hold on a Mo
.@FFA CEO James Johnson confirmed today that FFA, Hyundai #ALeague clubs, and @thepfa have reached an agreement on a comprehensive plan for the re-start of the Hyundai #ALeague 2019/20 Season. https://t.co/GxYvzo9Abr
— Hyundai A-League (@ALeague) May 28, 2020
Hold on a Mo
Yeh I'm sure all Fox will have to do is check their diaries to make sure there are no clashes with NRL etc, and all will be sweet!
Foreign players at Adelaide, Central Coast and Perth have not been paid since mid-March, leaving them reliant in some cases on cash handouts from their union or on money sent from family in their homelands. [Telegraph]https://t.co/ECVrt3OAuH
— A-League Hub (@AleagueHub) June 1, 2020
A-League new boys Macarthur FC may want assurances from FFA before committing to paying fee. The financial fallout from the coronavirus epidemic is set to continue, with question marks hanging over the $3.5 million that A-League entrants Macarthur FC are due to pay FFA next month
In the article it says that they understand that the Club's Participation Agreements every club has signed says that the FFA only has to give them a minimum of 1.2mil a season. I've never seen that mentioned anywhere before.
A-League clubs have six weeks to pay all outstanding wages to players before the competition can resume.
As part of the players' pay-cut deal with Football Federation Australia for the extended season, clubs must catch up on all owed entitlements before games can restart in mid-July.
The league's highest earners will sacrifice more than 80 per cent of their salaries between June and August to allow lower earners to keep a greater share of their earnings. In exchange for the pay cut, Professional Footballers Australia wants clubs to meet their outstanding payments this season.
it's preety fudgeed up