Southern Football (incl Southern United) (Part 1)

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Southern Football (incl Otago United)
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I believe Otago Utd have there first training session tonight and that there squad was announced last night.
 
Liam Little - Caversham
Colin Falvey - Mosgiel (previously Ireland)
Tim Horner - Caversham
Blair Scoullar - Dunedin Tech
Rhys Henderson - Caversham
Michael Smith - Caversham
Tristan Prattley - Dunedin Tech
Andy Coburn - Dunedin Tech
Seamus Ryder - Caversham
Morgan Day - Mosgiel
Regan Coldicott - Mosgiel
Robbie Deeley - Caversham
Barry Gardiner - Southland Spirit
Aaron Burgess -  Dunedin Tech
Sean Brand - Roslyn Wakari
Dave Dugdale - Caversham
Tom Jackson - Caversham
Tom Conner - Roslyn Wakari
Al Rickerby - Mosgiel
 
2-3 Imports to be added
 
Looks solid at the back with Little, Falvey, Horner, Scoullar etc and good up front with Burgess, Dugdale maybe Jackson, but a bit lightweight in midfield except for Coburn.
They will need some quality in midfield from their imports i reckon.
Overall not too bad, missing a few Tech and Cavy players like Mckenzie, Chisholm, Jasper, Overton, Wild that would have been nice but ok none the less.
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a lot of young players involved who wont play huge role in the season. imports to add quality, no wheeler or little mike (mr glass) eisenhut i see. hope they do well but with only coburn in the midfield may struggle there. chisholm has finished uni and has got a job up in auks, wild will prob be cantbury again and mckenzie is heading up north to play i believe

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if that is a correct squad (i'm not doubting you cliff, i just want ANYTHING official).

I would have liked to have seen  Eisenhut,wheller also ben keat and mike cunningham as well as john lang and ross mackenzie up front and off course chisholm at the back but that's not to shabby.
 
Imports: If we can get an out and out striker (15 goal a season) to combine with burgess and dugdale. (I've seen Jackson play he will get murdered at NZFC level). Also a quality CB would be nice.
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Pretty much the squad that I've heard - minus one player however.

Eisenhut has moved to Australia - Wheeler is not interested this year - Keat due to not being good enough last year isn't involved - Cunningham is playing for a varsity in the states - Lang is simply not up to it - Chisholm is leaving to work in Auckland.

Jackson is a brilliant player - I haven't seen a young player quite as atheletic and talented as him in a while. He will be my pick of the best young rookies in the NZFC.

If you want a quality CB you have two to choose from - Horner returning from a 2 year break was class for Otago in 2005/06 and Falvey is also a good looking product as he showed in the latter stages of last season.
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Falvey is a cheat.
 
In a recent SPL match he called quality AR Chris Boyd and F...ing cheat twcie over an offside decision that clearly wasn't offside (ie AR left his flag down goal scored)
 
And soccersouth only gave him a one week ban.
 
Despite that he's not event that good
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Kennedy wrote:

Jackson is a brilliant player - I haven't seen a young player quite as atheletic and talented as him in a while. He will be my pick of the best young rookies in the NZFC.

 
I don't deny Jackson is a good player but i feel he isn't phyiscal enough to make at NZFC level.
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I don't think any defense in the South Island was able to cope with him. He will go alright.
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jackson isnt that good. could be in the future but you are dreaming by saying he will be one of the best rookies!!! he will barely get game time. tech defense looked after him just fine they beat cavy 2/3 games and in both games tech won jackson played and jackson was away when cavy won 5-2
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Jackson was good at the front of a good cavey team. The times he looked poor were when he played tech in the chatham cup rd of 16 and in a league match vs Tech. If you put him in Nortern for example he would be quite poor.
 
I hope i'm proven wrong, i really do but i can't see it happening.
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otagofan wrote:
Falvey is a cheat.
 
In a recent SPL match he called quality AR Chris Boyd and F...ing cheat twcie over an offside decision that clearly wasn't offside (ie AR left his flag down goal scored)
 
And soccersouth only gave him a one week ban.
 
Despite that he's not event that good


Otago fan - are you taking the piss?  How can you say Falvey is a cheat? What has he done to prove that..... calling an assistant ref isnt proof!

He is a bloody good defender and will do a good job this year for Otago in the SPL.  Next time you come out making these outrages claims - have something to back it up with i.e. bribes to the ref or something along those lines.

Otago are gona have a good backline there

Starting lineups?
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Myne is as follows:

                                  Little

Henderson        Horner    Falvey       Pratley

Dugdale          Schoular     Coburn      Rickerby

                         Burgess      Brand
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One Problem
Rickerby and Dugdale are strikers
 
But mine is
 
                               Little
 
   Smith        Horner      Falvey      Henderson
 
  Deeley      Coburn     Scoullar    Gardiner
 
                    Burgess    Dugdale 
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They maybe strikers but there is no way id put robbie deeley out wide - let alone on the park!
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The times Jackson played poorly against Tech the whole Caversham team played poorly and there wasn't any quality ball getting to him. In saying that yes he has a way to go but that will come with time.

Alistair Rickerby isn't playing by the way. 
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has Big Al had any game time for the first squad? last i heard he was on the bench or in reserves. 
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And could do with some more Mosgiel Players, 4 isn't enough if you want to win! 
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rightstr wrote:

Is Nick Tarrant not available?

 
id imagine he would be back in wellington for summer.
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Christo wrote:
And could do with some more Mosgiel Players, 4 isn't enough if you want to win! 
 
4 is way to bloody many
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So has any1 heard how Otago is shaping up with only 10days to kick off????
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The team is as is on page 1 , except for Al Rickerby , the wanna be cop is to fat and out of condition , when you have Dugdale , Burgess and maybe Jackson and Scoullar if needed couldnt see him getting any game time anyway?
 
And four imports arrive next week , not sure when
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I saw rickerby play for mosgiel a couple of games in the SPL and didnt think he was up2 much,I think Jackson could b just what Otago need playing with guys like burgess and dugdale with his pace to beat deffenders to the ball.Any word on Otago player of the year Sean brand does he have anything to offer to otago this year?
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I think that Brand will start up front and play as a lone striker in the 1st game of the season.  Very physical and skilled player - he will cause havoc against the TW backline
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Cant see Brand even making travel squad for first game , which is against Auckland not Wellington
They will only use Brand as a last resort
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I heard he's been rubbish at training and even had words with the Phelan already..With players like Jackson and burgess he will struggle!Although against a team like Wellington i think he could bang a couple in i hear there not looking strong,I also heard a couple of ex Dunedin boys are up there?Big K Taylor and Wee R Mckenzie??Can any1 confirm this?
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The general feeling is that mackenzie has gone to wellington and if taylor has that is a quality signing for them.
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Otago has a freindly game tonight and there 2 german imports may be on show/trial not sure if they have signed them or not.

The word from the camp is pretty positiove, new squad is bonding well after a long weekend in Wanaka.

This could be the year we make it out of the bottom two..........

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If Kev has gone that good for Wellington as they are really strugling for quality defenders , I heard thats why Raf went to Manawatu as he was asked to play in defence but we all know he's midfield
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McKenzie a defender???I saw him play about 5 games 4 Dunedin Tech this year either up front or on the left and all he seemed to do was kick it away or blame the other players for his mistakes...In my point or view Wellington can have him!!!!!!!It will be interesting to hear how these imports look because you never no what will turn up down this way

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Roy Keane wrote:
If Kev has gone that good for Wellington as they are really strugling for quality defenders , I heard thats why Raf went to Manawatu as he was asked to play in defence but we all know he's midfield
 
 thats a good story, I wonder who made that up.
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the 2 germans are not imports they are 2 backpackers who have made their own way over to nz and otago have offered them a trial.
dont get your hopes up about their quality
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Last nights warm up game
 
Dunedin Tech U19's 0-0 Otago United
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nightz wrote:
Roy Keane wrote:
If Kev has gone that good for Wellington as they are really strugling for quality defenders , I heard thats why Raf went to Manawatu as he was asked to play in defence but we all know he's midfield
 
 thats a good story, I wonder who made that up.
 
Probably Raf to hide the fact that he went for a bus load of money.
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0-0 if so how are they going to go against Auckland 1st game up!!!!!!!!!

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I caught the last half hour and it was nothing special although defensively we were good and did all the attacking but no real opportunites developed
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