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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126676186/playing-time-at-club-level-in-focus-as-all-whites-break-up-after-successful-window

But the question now is how many minutes will they play over the next four weeks, before they meet again in November, where Hay is expecting to have more All Whites fixtures and an announcement is due in the next week or so.

Definitely don't ignore 'or so' here. Just based on the fact that they are pretty firm on the fact they'll playing in November and next weekend is two weeks out from the start of the window, which was when this window's matches were announced back in September.
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Seems like Jordan now unavailable. Looks like they already have 2 Nov friendlies (Albania & Belarus) leading into Arab Cup.

Kuwait have 1 friendly locked in against Lithuania. Uzbekistan still free, as are likes of Thailand & Malaysia. 

As mentioned elsewhere a few UEFA teams with at least one free match slot, plus some uncommitted CONCACAF teams like Haiti, Trinidad & Tobago, Guatemela etc. But overall limited options.
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Shaping up to be quite a hard and tricky inter continental play off. If NZ draws CONMEBOL it will most likely be either Colombia, Ecuador or Uruguay. Either 30+ Temperatures in Barranquilla against Cuardado, Borja and James Rodriguez, against Ecuador in 3400m altitude in Quito where Argentina and Brazil struggle at or Cavani or Suarez in a hostile atmosphere in Montevideo. In Asia, either Japan or Australia will finish 3rd in group B and you would think they will win the play off against Group A third place (Currently Lebanon). CONCAF is probably our easiest route, but Canada who currently hold play off spot shouldn’t be taken lightly, whose players play in similar or even higher leagues than all whites. It will be a challenge, no doubt about it. So next few windows of internationals will be key, and i would suggest to play strongest possible squad as well.. 
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Shaping up to be quite a hard and tricky inter continental play off. If NZ draws CONMEBOL it will most likely be either Colombia, Ecuador or Uruguay. Either 30+ Temperatures in Barranquilla against Cuardado, Borja and James Rodriguez, against Ecuador in 3400m altitude in Quito where Argentina and Brazil struggle at or Cavani or Suarez in a hostile atmosphere in Montevideo. In Asia, either Japan or Australia will finish 3rd in group B and you would think they will win the play off against Group A third place (Currently Lebanon). CONCAF is probably our easiest route, but Canada who currently hold play off spot shouldn’t be taken lightly, whose players play in similar or even higher leagues than all whites. It will be a challenge, no doubt about it. So next few windows of internationals will be key, and i would suggest to play strongest possible squad as well.. 

Any CONMEBOL team would be a fridge too far for the AWs, even Bolivia/Venezuela, so I’d write off them straight away if we get CONMEBOL again. Even Australia’s golden generation with lineup full of top level European players only managed to get through on penalties in 2006 against Uruguay, after losing to them in 2002.

Canada I reckon would be tougher than Australia, they have starters at the current champions of the Bundesliga (Davies) and Ligue 1 (David), and would be at lowest MLS players, but they’re a good chance at automatic qualification, as only Mexico and USA are probably better across the board, so CONCACAF could Panama, Costa Rica, Honduras, Jamaica which would be a decent draw.

Australia had won 11 in a row but that was against Chinese Taipei, Nepal etc, they lost to Japan in their first tough game. If they lose in Saudi they could bottle things, but the other group isn’t as great so they’d back themselves at least the playoff. Either way, a playoff against Australia would be a great spectacle, if not the easiest possible game.

Hopefully the draw gets done soon so we can know what we’re up against.
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Shaping up to be quite a hard and tricky inter continental play off. If NZ draws CONMEBOL it will most likely be either Colombia, Ecuador or Uruguay. Either 30+ Temperatures in Barranquilla against Cuardado, Borja and James Rodriguez, against Ecuador in 3400m altitude in Quito where Argentina and Brazil struggle at or Cavani or Suarez in a hostile atmosphere in Montevideo. In Asia, either Japan or Australia will finish 3rd in group B and you would think they will win the play off against Group A third place (Currently Lebanon). CONCAF is probably our easiest route, but Canada who currently hold play off spot shouldn’t be taken lightly, whose players play in similar or even higher leagues than all whites. It will be a challenge, no doubt about it. So next few windows of internationals will be key, and i would suggest to play strongest possible squad as well.. 
Barranquilla/Cartagena are like saunas. Proper sweaty hot. I was there around New Years a few years back, but I think it's hot all year round on the Caribbean Coast.

Can see why Colombia take home games there for a real advantage, rather than temperate cool Bogota.

If you want a South American city not that different from NZ/Euro climes & not too much culture shock - Montevideo. But yeah hopefully avoid the CONMEBOL pool ball.
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I am going to be honest with my opinion here and I am putting myself at risk of sounding like a Twit.

I am really hoping the OFC Qualifiers tournament gets cancelled and OFC just nominates us as the highest rank team (FIFA rankings) to progress to the intercontinental playoffs. 

That way we can spend November, January and March playing six meaningful fixtures. 

No disrespect to the OFC nations, they're improving by the minute and teams like PNG, Solomon Islands, Tahiti and NC are always tough sides to beat, but once we know if it's either CONCACAF, AFC or CONNMEBOL as OFC's playoff opposition, I think the January and March windows will be very crucial in preparing against sides from whoever faces OFC's highest rank team.

But this is my opinion only, there might be some FIFA ruling that may go against this. 
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I am going to be honest with my opinion here and I am putting myself at risk of sounding like a Twit.

I am really hoping the OFC Qualifiers tournament gets cancelled and OFC just nominates us as the highest rank team (FIFA rankings) to progress to the intercontinental playoffs. 

That way we can spend November, January and March playing six meaningful fixtures. 

No disrespect to the OFC nations, they're improving by the minute and teams like PNG, Solomon Islands, Tahiti and NC are always tough sides to beat, but once we know if it's either CONCACAF, AFC or CONNMEBOL as OFC's playoff opposition, I think the January and March windows will be very crucial in preparing against sides from whoever faces OFC's highest rank team.

But this is my opinion only, there might be some FIFA ruling that may go against this. 

Basically agree. Think we are doubtful to have friendlies in that extra one off January window. Would likely struggle to get a team together (doubt likes of Wood, Singh, Thomas etc would be released by their clubs), and could be even less teams than now, available to play. UEFA ain't observing that window.

But yes that March window is somewhat crucial being last window before Intercontinental Playoffs in June 2022. Without being arrogant seems a waste in a way to have that whole window playing OFC teams. The mooted tourney still hasn't been formally announced.

Some good news as mentioned by AV though, is that Intercontinental Playoffs (IP) are likely to be late June. So chance to sneak in a warmup friendly early June. If Socceroos automatically qualify, and AWs host the first IP game, perfect chance to host Socceroos in a warmup 7-10 days prior.
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CactusJones
I am going to be honest with my opinion here and I am putting myself at risk of sounding like a Twit.

I am really hoping the OFC Qualifiers tournament gets cancelled and OFC just nominates us as the highest rank team (FIFA rankings) to progress to the intercontinental playoffs. 

That way we can spend November, January and March playing six meaningful fixtures. 

No disrespect to the OFC nations, they're improving by the minute and teams like PNG, Solomon Islands, Tahiti and NC are always tough sides to beat, but once we know if it's either CONCACAF, AFC or CONNMEBOL as OFC's playoff opposition, I think the January and March windows will be very crucial in preparing against sides from whoever faces OFC's highest rank team.

But this is my opinion only, there might be some FIFA ruling that may go against this. 

Basically agree. Think we are doubtful to have friendlies in that extra one off January window. Would likely struggle to get a team together (doubt likes of Wood, Singh, Thomas etc would be released by their clubs), and could be even less teams than now, available to play. UEFA ain't observing that window.

But yes that March window is somewhat crucial being last window before Intercontinental Playoffs in June 2022. Without being arrogant seems a waste in a way to have that whole window playing OFC teams. The mooted tourney still hasn't been formally announced.

Some good news as mentioned by AV though, is that Intercontinental Playoffs (IP) are likely to be late June. So chance to sneak in a warmup friendly early June. If Socceroos automatically qualify, and AWs host the first IP game, perfect chance to host Socceroos in a warmup 7-10 days prior.
Understand the premise of keeping together are best players every window from now on as well, but I wouldn’t mind having a second string team of fringe All Whites playing against the likes of Trinidad and Tobago and Haiti if we draw CONCACAF, or even if we draw AFC, I wouldn’t mind games against Philippines and Hong Kong and featuring the likes of Francis de Vries, Kyle Adams, Deklan Wynne etc just for that January Window. 

Back to normal with decent opposition and our best team for that March window as well as like you say, a few warm up games for June. 
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coochiee
CactusJones
I am going to be honest with my opinion here and I am putting myself at risk of sounding like a Twit.

I am really hoping the OFC Qualifiers tournament gets cancelled and OFC just nominates us as the highest rank team (FIFA rankings) to progress to the intercontinental playoffs. 

That way we can spend November, January and March playing six meaningful fixtures. 

No disrespect to the OFC nations, they're improving by the minute and teams like PNG, Solomon Islands, Tahiti and NC are always tough sides to beat, but once we know if it's either CONCACAF, AFC or CONNMEBOL as OFC's playoff opposition, I think the January and March windows will be very crucial in preparing against sides from whoever faces OFC's highest rank team.

But this is my opinion only, there might be some FIFA ruling that may go against this. 

Basically agree. Think we are doubtful to have friendlies in that extra one off January window. Would likely struggle to get a team together (doubt likes of Wood, Singh, Thomas etc would be released by their clubs), and could be even less teams than now, available to play. UEFA ain't observing that window.

But yes that March window is somewhat crucial being last window before Intercontinental Playoffs in June 2022. Without being arrogant seems a waste in a way to have that whole window playing OFC teams. The mooted tourney still hasn't been formally announced.

Some good news as mentioned by AV though, is that Intercontinental Playoffs (IP) are likely to be late June. So chance to sneak in a warmup friendly early June. If Socceroos automatically qualify, and AWs host the first IP game, perfect chance to host Socceroos in a warmup 7-10 days prior.
Understand the premise of keeping together are best players every window from now on as well, but I wouldn’t mind having a second string team of fringe All Whites playing against the likes of Trinidad and Tobago and Haiti if we draw CONCACAF, or even if we draw AFC, I wouldn’t mind games against Philippines and Hong Kong and featuring the likes of Francis de Vries, Kyle Adams, Deklan Wynne etc just for that January Window. 

Back to normal with decent opposition and our best team for that March window as well as like you say, a few warm up games for June. 

Yeah again some merit. Certainly the 3 Helsingor guys will likely be tiddling their thumbs in late January, in the midst of a nearly 3 month mid winter break.

Lots of moving parts. Is March OFC Tourney going to happen, who do OFC draw as their Intercontinental Playoff opponent, what other teams are looking for a friendly in January, when will NZ based staffers like Hay no longer need to do MIQ, same for A League based AW players etc etc etc.

Also how much cash does NZ have. I presume these friendlies come at a cost. I note seems that NZF will be shelling out cash on games for the Ferns, every international window they have between now and the 2023 WWC.

All this bearing in mind Nov AWs friendlies still not yet confirmed. So looking ahead to January/March probably a bit early.
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Playoff vs Australia would be gold on multiple levels...
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It annoys me that we are forever left in the dark by NZF.  As you are probably aware, I try my hardest to watch the AWs (and Ferns) when they are nearish the UK but it's hard to organise leave, visas etc with so little warning/security that it's going ahead.  It's been like this since I left NZ in '06.

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