Legend
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move faster sky

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patrick478 wrote:

Smithy wrote:

This is interesting. I'd pay $14.99 for a day pass to watch a Phoenix away game that was at an inconvenient time for the pub or if I couldn't be arsed going to the pub.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/sky-launches-one-day-and-one-week-passes-its-sports-channels

think you're in the minority there, $15 seems about $5 too expensive for me to pay it rather than find a stream.

 

I'll always pay for content in preference to stealing it if it's reasonably priced and convenient.

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Tegal wrote:

that's only marginally cheaper than a sky subscription, and there is no on demand option. 

But it is another step in the right direction I suppose. 

 

Even if the average weekly price of Sky was $15 (it's not btw) you can't sign up to Sky just for a week to watch one game. 

So it's definitely a step in the right direction.

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it's too expensive to use consistently. But where it would be good (especially if they introduce an on demand feature in future) is something like the football World Cup. I'd pay $80 for 4 week passes to watch it. That's also assuming all games are on SS1-4 mind you, rather than their popup channels. 

A definite step in the right direction though. Who would've thought we'd have this option a few years ago? 

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Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

that's only marginally cheaper than a sky subscription, and there is no on demand option. 

But it is another step in the right direction I suppose. 

 

Even if the average weekly price of Sky was $15 (it's not btw) you can't sign up to Sky just for a week to watch one game. 

So it's definitely a step in the right direction.

It's roughly $25 per week. And this is $20 per week. Marginally cheaper with no on demand option (and no popup channels). The flexibility to only use it for only a week without committing to 12 months is definitely it's greatest strength.

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Tegal wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

that's only marginally cheaper than a sky subscription, and there is no on demand option. 

But it is another step in the right direction I suppose. 

 

Even if the average weekly price of Sky was $15 (it's not btw) you can't sign up to Sky just for a week to watch one game. 

So it's definitely a step in the right direction.

It's roughly $25 per week. And this is $20 per week. Marginally cheaper with no on demand option (and no popup channels). The flexibility to only use it for only a week without committing to 12 months is definitely it's greatest strength.

 

This is $14.99 a week isn't it? 

I agree though, its one-off nature is its selling point. And that was what I was saying...if there was a Phoenix away game that I wanted to watch but I couldn't be bothered hauling myself to the pub I would probably pay $15 to watch it on my tele. I'd make savings in food and beverage consumption, and transport costs, anyway to offset the $15.

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$15 for a day pass, $20 for a week pass iirc. 

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Tegal wrote:

$15 for a day pass, $20 for a week pass iirc. 

So next thing would be an A-League pass along the lines of the existing super rugby and NRL passes.

Marquee
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Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

that's only marginally cheaper than a sky subscription, and there is no on demand option. 

But it is another step in the right direction I suppose. 

 

Even if the average weekly price of Sky was $15 (it's not btw) you can't sign up to Sky just for a week to watch one game. 

So it's definitely a step in the right direction.

It's roughly $25 per week. And this is $20 per week. Marginally cheaper with no on demand option (and no popup channels). The flexibility to only use it for only a week without committing to 12 months is definitely it's greatest strength.

 

This is $14.99 a week isn't it? 

I agree though, its one-off nature is its selling point. And that was what I was saying...if there was a Phoenix away game that I wanted to watch but I couldn't be bothered hauling myself to the pub I would probably pay $15 to watch it on my tele. I'd make savings in food and beverage consumption, and transport costs, anyway to offset the $15.

It will be about ~$200 per season to watch all the 'Nix's away games. For that amount Sky should just packaged the whole HAL and FFA Cup, include on-demand replays and highlight shows (even chuck in some of Fox's magazine shows). 

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Sky is losing content all over the place: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/71051891/sky-...

If I was a subscriber (which I'm not) cricket would be one of the main drawcards so this would annoy me.

They're like a CD shop 10 years ago, clinging to their outdated mode of delivery, but things are changing fast!

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hlmphil wrote:

Sky is losing content all over the place: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/71051891/sky-...

If I was a subscriber (which I'm not) cricket would be one of the main drawcards so this would annoy me.

They're like a CD shop 10 years ago, clinging to their outdated mode of delivery, but things are changing fast!

 

Sky does this every time a rights package is up for negotiation. It's their standard tactic. 

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Smithy wrote:

hlmphil wrote:

Sky is losing content all over the place: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/71051891/sky-...

If I was a subscriber (which I'm not) cricket would be one of the main drawcards so this would annoy me.

They're like a CD shop 10 years ago, clinging to their outdated mode of delivery, but things are changing fast!

 

Sky does this every time a rights package is up for negotiation. It's their standard tactic. 

They do the "No one else will pay for it, so we'll just wait and hope to get a discount cause there is no competition"

I think all the tours over the past 3-4 years have been close to not covered by Sky (Deal done at last minute)

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you'd think they'd see that as risky these days. Especially with overseas tours, where they don't have monopoly over OSB like they do domestically. 

They risk someone like lightbox sport swooping in and claiming the rights from under their nose at the last minute, as happened with EPL. 

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Smithy wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Smithy wrote:

This is interesting. I'd pay $14.99 for a day pass to watch a Phoenix away game that was at an inconvenient time for the pub or if I couldn't be arsed going to the pub.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/sky-launches-one-day-and-one-week-passes-its-sports-channels

think you're in the minority there, $15 seems about $5 too expensive for me to pay it rather than find a stream.

 

I'll always pay for content in preference to stealing it if it's reasonably priced and convenient.

Sounds like you are picking up a hooker or something

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I would pay $15 for a Sky day pass, no problem paying for the product. But Sky also have to ramp up the quality of their broadcast, theu got a bit lazy in the last year.Tha Bozza guys talks about adding value to the game, I want the same form sky. More cameras, super slow-mo, better and more analyses, background info. There is much to improve.

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Tegal wrote:

you'd think they'd see that as risky these days. Especially with overseas tours, where they don't have monopoly over OSB like they do domestically. 

They risk someone like lightbox sport swooping in and claiming the rights from under their nose at the last minute, as happened with EPL. 

Oh I agree, am surprised it has never happened before.

As for the EPL, I can see Sky paying waaaay over the current contract price this time around in an attempt to just kill off Coliseum and continue their monopoly, even though I am fairly sure that it has bolted already. 

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So the uber-geeks at work tell me Hola is a bloody terrible idea. Here's why: http://adios-hola.org/

You're effectively sharing YOUR internet connection with every other user of Hola AND allowing them to potentially run script on your machine. 

Remove immediately and seek alternatives.

Listen here Fudgeface
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Smithy wrote:

So the uber-geeks at work tell me Hola is a bloody terrible idea. Here's why: http://adios-hola.org/

You're effectively sharing YOUR internet connection with every other user of Hola AND allowing them to potentially run script on your machine. 

Remove immediately and seek alternatives.

Running Hola is pretty much as risky as running a Tor exit-node. But if you are running a Tor exit-node you probably know what you are doing, whereas the average user running Hola doesn't.

Legend
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Oh my goodness

I am running Hola at home, I had no idea. 

Can someone more technical tell me what the risks are here? Could this be affecting general performance (asking as my pc performance at home seems to have dipped) And what would be a good suggested alternative?

I can google and make decisions myself, but I do prefer the advice from people round here, it is generally excellent (notwithstanding it was someone here who told me to get Hola LOL)

Legend
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Ok so I just read your link Smithy, and that is very concerning. 

Removing Hola as soon as I get home...

Listen here Fudgeface
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From the article Smithy linked. 

Hola is a "peer-to-peer" VPN. This may sound nice, but what it actually means is that other people browse the web through your internet connection. To a website, it seems like it's you browsing the site.

Perhaps that doesn't seem bad to you. However, imagine that somebody uploaded child pornography through your connection, for example. To everybody else, it seems as if it was your computer that did it, and you can't really prove otherwise.

Marquee
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This is why I ain't no Hola back girl

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paulm wrote:

Oh my goodness

I am running Hola at home, I had no idea. 

Can someone more technical tell me what the risks are here? Could this be affecting general performance (asking as my pc performance at home seems to have dipped) And what would be a good suggested alternative?

I can google and make decisions myself, but I do prefer the advice from people round here, it is generally excellent (notwithstanding it was someone here who told me to get Hola LOL)

 

9 out of 10 nerds I have polled suggest: https://www2.unotelly.com/home

$5/month.

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Good move.

The risks certainly outweigh the pros of using Hola.  As is the way these days if its free its probably free for a reason.  and it only takes one bad thing to appear as if its your internet connection to result in a life long digital (or legal) scar.

Moar stars
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paulm wrote:

Ok so I just read your link Smithy, and that is very concerning. 

Removing Hola as soon as I get home...

Too late. 

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Smithy wrote:

paulm wrote:

Oh my goodness

I am running Hola at home, I had no idea. 

Can someone more technical tell me what the risks are here? Could this be affecting general performance (asking as my pc performance at home seems to have dipped) And what would be a good suggested alternative?

I can google and make decisions myself, but I do prefer the advice from people round here, it is generally excellent (notwithstanding it was someone here who told me to get Hola LOL)

 

9 out of 10 nerds I have polled suggest: https://www2.unotelly.com/home

$5/month.

I was also a Hola user, not for long before I started to realise what it was doing, and then I went to Unotelly. Much better service, and meh it's $5 a month.

WeeNix
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free week of fanpass with the code FANPASSWEEK just testing it out, looks like with the sky sport 1-4 subscription you also get access to the catalogue of super rugby and nrl. not sure about F1 as it looks like the on demand viewing window has closed for the previous events. So a small range of on demand, I suppose if they start doing more sports/leagues as stand alone products the on demand offering will increase.

Tegal
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didn't realise you also for access to the other stuff. That's not bad. Wonder if that'll be in the actual package. 

WeeNix
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Looks like the bit rate for the channels maxes out at 3000kbps, but the bit rate for the NRL/super rugby/F1 maxes out 4500kbps.
Also just came across this https://www.tvnz.co.nz/ondemand/bundesliga so it will be interesting to see what they have.

Tegal
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I suspect they may have picked up what sommet had. Just like sky picked up the odd English championship game. 

Marquee
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Still can't decide what to do. If we get rid of Sky would have to buy a smart TV correct?

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foal30 wrote:

Still can't decide what to do. If we get rid of Sky would have to buy a smart TV correct?

 

Nah, just a TV with an HDMI input. Then plug your laptop in and you have pretty much everything at your fingertips.

Tegal
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or chromecast, which also plugs straight into HDMI port. 

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JonoNewton wrote:

Smithy wrote:

paulm wrote:

Oh my goodness

I am running Hola at home, I had no idea. 

Can someone more technical tell me what the risks are here? Could this be affecting general performance (asking as my pc performance at home seems to have dipped) And what would be a good suggested alternative?

I can google and make decisions myself, but I do prefer the advice from people round here, it is generally excellent (notwithstanding it was someone here who told me to get Hola LOL)

 

9 out of 10 nerds I have polled suggest: https://www2.unotelly.com/home

$5/month.

I was also a Hola user, not for long before I started to realise what it was doing, and then I went to Unotelly. Much better service, and meh it's $5 a month.

Bugger. Better do that myself. Bit of a shame though cause Hola works so well.
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Just as I start to hate sky even more....

http://www.skysport.co.nz/article/football/headlin...

This season you’ll find the biggest names in the world of football right here on SKY Sport, as SKY confirms a deal with global broadcasting network beIN Sports.

The deal offers fans an absolute football feast, with selected games from the UEFA Champions League, Europa League, Football League and the Capital One Cup exclusively LIVE on SKY Sport.

“We are excited to bring games of this caliber to the screen for SKY Sport customers,” said Richard Last, SKY’s Director of Sport.

“Football fans will enjoy coverage from the European competitions, while continuing to have access to Premier League action via Chelsea TV, Arsenal TV, Manchester City TV and Manchester United TV.”

The Premier League table-toppers will be joined by the likes of continental leviathans Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus and Real Madrid as Europe’s best compete in the UEFA Champions League.

The Europa League showcases the best of the rest – including Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur.

Fans of English football will also enjoy chosen matches from the Football League, as England’s underdogs play for promotion to Premier League glory.

SKY Sport will also have LIVE coverage from the Capital One Cup.

For coverage details of UEFA Champion’s League, Europa League, Football League, and the Capital One Cup, check your electronic guide and SKY Sport NZ for updates.

Tegal
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"selected games from"

Sigh. 

Tegal
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same as before. 2 live games each match day. The rest either delayed or not shown at all. 

Surely this is no longer good enough? 

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Tegal wrote:

"selected games from"

Sigh. 

on a positive spin - Europa league which wasn't on last year, Capital One Cup, and Football championship all covered and Champions league at the same level if not slightly better than how ESPN delivered it.

If ratings for these games are good then hopefully they will put more on - if ratings are poor then we will have to put up with what is being offered.

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Marquee
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chopah wrote:

Tegal wrote:

"selected games from"

Sigh. 

on a positive spin - Europa league which wasn't on last year, Capital One Cup, and Football championship all covered and Champions league at the same level if not slightly better than how ESPN delivered it.

If ratings for these games are good then hopefully they will put more on - if ratings are poor then we will have to put up with what is being offered.

Bullshark.

Watch football from any one of the plethora of alternative sources available. Sky is NOT a monopoly. Ther's this thing called the internet now.

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