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Legend
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So just talking NZ tourism?
Which means keeping out backpackers and working holidays and just allowing people who…
How does that work? 
Only allowing pre-booked tours?
Marquee
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martinb

So just talking NZ tourism?
Which means keeping out backpackers and working holidays and just allowing people who…
How does that work? 
Only allowing pre-booked tours?

Yes how do you actually cap tourist numbers? Sounds a possible logistical mess. And whilst definitely some frustration with the pre Covid tourist model, those views within NZ could themselves differ wildly.

How do you just target high end tourists? High end adventure activities? High end glamping? NZ just don't have the classy culture stuff, hot warm beach holidays or big city destination excitement that a lot of wealthy older tourists want in their crammed 2-3 week annual vacation. Plus NZ is just such a long flight from most wealthy countries.

Just bus load after bus load of Chinese package bus tours, with most of that cash just doing a Chinese loop, ie little actually spent in NZ? Cruise ships bit more of the same, though yes they can spend when they land.

Are 30 flights a week of high end tourists staying for 3 weeks, better for the environment than 15 flights a week of backpackers staying 1 year?

Are backpackers now a hugely important component of the seasonal NZ workforce, and Agri sector would suffer greatly esp without them?
No matter the pay on offer these jobs will be unpopular with Kiwis, esp with a 3.8% unemployment rate. Plus the Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) scheme workers sometimes bring in some social issues, so expanding that won't be a one stop solution.

Tidy up the whole freedom camper mess. Vans only with proper toilets etc etc Part way to solving some issues.

Sure good time for a rethink, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Marquee
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Well, our tourism taxes and levy's are already much lower than countries like the UK and Australia. There's plenty of room to increase those.
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Ryan
Well, our tourism taxes and levy's are already much lower than countries like the UK and Australia. There's plenty of room to increase those.

Doesn't stop a few million backpackers heading to Oz each year, and never will, when they have plans to work and just factor it into their travel/arrival setup costs. It's a right of passage for young kids from wealthier countries to travel enmasse for a year or so, and NZ & Aus will always remain 2 attractive destinations, for play & some work.

Plus you are often so caught up in the excitement & exhaustive planning of the trip itself, any nasty extra fees you encounter when you arrive you just take grudingly on the chin. You can't know everything, everywhere pre arrival.

Plus it's a long way from Frankfurt to NZ. You maybe never back, a once in a lifetime chance, before the set path of adult life intervenes. A $200 border tax, ain't going to deter even a 23 year old German with a bagful of Aussie dollars slogged picking mangoes. They want a holiday. They want to go to beautiful NZ. They'll just drop their drinking budget for a week or so.
Legend
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Also the idea that New Zealand is an exclusive island for those visiting their Queenstown mansions or various functionaries and so on really shouldn’t sit easy either…

There may need to be a change. The question is will there and what. The likelihood that the industry (quite recently NZ’s biggest) could be corralled seems unlikely once people can travel again.
 It would need more than top down work- it’d need a general consensus across the country. 

The freedom camping thing seems odd- we sold off all these camp grounds and now they’re verges and car parks, is that right? I mean I definitely could see movement there. 



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