GCU arrogance is contagious

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GCU arrogance is contagious
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Sorry if this is a "here we go again" thread, but this gets me going...

As if Miron the Mouth and Clive Palmer were not enough now Culina has caught it too:

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/a-league/culina-nsl-still-superior-225377

"He said he wanted the club to show Australia how top class professional football should be played.

"We want to bring to Australia a new style of football, the complete football,� he said.

�We want to produce a brand of football other A-League teams can�t play."

Ughh, give me a break....I think the whole league is developing and looking like it will have a better standard than previously. It isn't all down to Gold Coast!

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Actually, from the two games played so far GCU look like they could be the best side assembled so far in the A-League.  Aside from Melbourne in the Fred year there hasn't been a truly awesome attacking side assembled.  It's early days but with the way he's pinging it about is he that far off?

Normo's coming home

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Didn't Brisbane Roar look the better team against GCU but were unlucky not to score?
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I only watched bits and pieces, the roar had plenty of possession but GC were much more potent attacking wise and created much better chances.  I'm just struck by the pace at which they attack, it does look a level above a lot of what we've seen in the past few years, and Culina is the guy pulling the strings.

Normo's coming home

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This makes me laugh - what is Palmer doing! He wants to cap attendances at Robina at 5,000 - so he doens't have to pay a government tax, which then pays for the free buses and shuttles to the stadium.

After the match between GCU and NQF had an attendance of 7000, it is estimated the club lost $60,000, and he's angry about that despite his $6,230,000,000 (it looks bigger with all them zeros) worth. Apparently need 10,000 crowd to break even - well Mr Palmer, thats what the wonderful Phoenix got!
 
Sigh.
 
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Taking the FFA judiciary to court as it's 'corrupt'.

What a f**king joke.  If the FFA had had the balls to slap them when they first started ignoring them they wouldn't think they can get away with whatever they want now.  Good luck reigning this back in Buckley you spineless git.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Palmer is unbelievably cheap!  Wanting to limit crowds to 5000, wow.
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He's not winding us all up is he? 
 
Any publicity is good publicity sort of thing...
Junior822009-08-20 12:50:58

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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They're hardly going to help their own case if they start limiting their crowds, I mean if people show up to see GCU play and are turned away at the gates cos one stand is full - that's the kind of thing that will have people just saying 'screw it'.  Can you imagine away fans flying/driving over there then finding they can't even freaking get in?  And all this to avoid some transport fees...

GCU fans need to look to us to see how its done.  Palmer needs to look at Terry and see how its done.  Is he seriously expecting a first year profit from a football club?
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They've signed Salley to replace Griffiths.

So, that's three ex-Knights... even we only have one.   They must be SO proud.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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The rich are rich because they are so tight with their money.

But for serious, wouldn't his just turn people away from the club?
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He's a major financial supporter of the Queensland State opposition so it's political point-scoring... and a chance to pretend he's bigger than the FFA.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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The whole exercise is an ego trip for him anyway, so why would he care about crowds? I'm sure he'd prefer to lock out all those annoying little members of the public if he could.

After all, it means there's more seats to park his fat arse in.


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From Mike Cockerill in the SMH prior to the first home game
 

INSTANT hype, instant success. Week one delivered the goods for Gold Coast United, but now comes the hard part. Big names, big ambitions, and big personalities make a compelling case. But does anyone care?

On Saturday evening, Gold Coast host North Queensland Fury in their first A-League match at Robina. There are many reasons to hope for a decent crowd. In a nomadic pre-season, they played just twice at their own stadium, so there's the novelty factor. There's also the feelgood factor after their opening win in the derby against Brisbane Roar. And, of course, there is the Robbie Fowler factor.

The league's poster boy justified the hype last weekend and arrives on the Glitter Strip with a supporting cast that showed against Sydney FC that it might yet dish out a few slices of humble pie. Fowler versus Culina is a marketing dream and shouldn't be too hard to sell even at $29 a ticket. Should it?

Strangely, it seems it is. Gold Coast chairman Clive Palmer isn't exactly renowned for his modesty, but this time he's doing his best to hose down expectations. Big Clive reckons his team will do well to average gates of around 6000 to 7000 in their inaugural season. Say what?

Palmer claims that, on a per-capita basis, crowds of 7000 at Skilled Park would be as good as Melbourne Victory getting 120,000 to their games. It's hard to question a billionaire's mathematics, but those sums don't add up. If the Titans can average around 15,000 per game in the NRL, why can't GCU attract the same in the A-League? Instead, Palmer is aiming low - and he doesn't expect things to change much for the next few seasons.

Talk about an anticlimax. With a star-spangled squad, realistic title ambitions and the local media hanging off every word from Palmer and his quotable coach, Miron Bleiberg, there is a perfect storm gathering to get the turnstiles clicking. All that's needed is the value add. The membership drives, the coaching clinics, the community work. The club is on to it, right?

Maybe not. Perhaps Palmer's estimate is an admission of sorts. The word from HQ is that Gold Coast haven't been anywhere near as proactive as they should have been in building links with the grassroots.

Six thousand registered players in their immediate backyard and the same number again in northern NSW, which has the potential to become their catchment. Most of these people would have heard of the club by now, but not enough of them have heard from the club.

Just ask Sydney FC, who have only just realised that bling doesn't sell - at least in the long term. Only now are the Sky Blues seriously addressing the oversight, and hopefully they'll get a dividend when they also play their first home game of the season this weekend. As the Central Coast Mariners have demonstrated so admirably, proper clubs are built from the ground up.

Palmer is lucky. He can have it both ways - the fanfare, and the fans. He's got a perfect stadium, a brilliant team and a clever coach. My tip, for what it's worth, is that Gold Coast will win the title in their debut season. And they'll generate a torrent of publicity along the way. It would be a pity, then, if their fans were to be outnumbered by the empty seats, and the players were robbed of a crucial ingredient - atmosphere. The early signs are sobering - membership sales hovering around 2000, and no sign yet of an organised supporters group, though there is talk of the ''White Shoe Brigade'' coming out of the closet this weekend.

Gate takings won't register a blip on Palmer's bank balance, but crowds will help define his club. In a white-hot market soon to be joined by the AFL and perhaps Super 15 rugby, the mining magnate needs to put a stake in the ground.

That's where the real gold is. It's just a matter of digging deep enough.

Normo's coming home

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good article
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Hard News wrote:
Taking the FFA judiciary to court as it's 'corrupt'.

What a f**king joke.  If the FFA had had the balls to slap them when they first started ignoring them they wouldn't think they can get away with whatever they want now.  Good luck reigning this back in Buckley you spineless git.


It's bloody dangerous. Has anyone explained to him how delicate the state of Football in Aussie still is? There are some people on FFT claiming all this publicity is good, but ffs, you can't have the richest club owner threatening to take the governing body to court every couple of months.
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Hard News wrote:
He's a major financial supporter of the Queensland State opposition so it's political point-scoring... and a chance to pretend he's bigger than the FFA.
 
Isn't the levy for over 5,000 attendances for the free buses to the game? Someone is another thread pointed out how good this was on the Coast. So he wants the local government to pay for people to get to the game, but the club doesn't want a bar of it? Man this makes me rather f*cked off.
 
That stadium (as seen by me on TV) does seem very, very kool and I enjoy watching the Titans play there. They get awesome crowds, the fact that GCU have not connected with the fans and the grassroots shows just how poorly they have done this whole thing.
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Just makes me feel Mr Palmer isn't in it for the football or the fans in the Gold Coast.
I did have a laugh when i saw the crowd stat. A team like that with all the hoopla and hardly anyone turns up.

527,660 people on the gold coast, 7k at a game
385,600 people in wellington, 10k at a game

we'd be doing all right on a per capita basis then
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I can't understand why no-one is going to watch them.  Next home game is on Saturday September 5 against Sydney - surely people will turn up for that?  If I lived in Brisbane I'd drive down just to watch them play.
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I can't understand why no-one is going to watch them.  Next home game is on Saturday September 5 against Sydney - surely people will turn up for that?  If I lived in Brisbane I'd drive down just to watch them play.
 
Wouldn't you already be a Brisbane fan though?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Hard News wrote:



Clive being Clive...

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Perhaps Mr Porter is trying to put the fear of not getting in out there with the fledgling fanbase?
If enough people buy tickets when they are afraid they will miss out, GCU may increase their crowds and cover the bus subsidy as well....

OR
They could crash and burn with bugger-all crowd support.

You know,Terry and Tony could do a clever ad campaign, something like the Kiwibank ad,
a call to arms to all the ex-pat kiwis in Brisbane and the Gold Coast to come and support The Nix when ever they play in Brisbane or the Gold Coast.
That would piss Mr Porter off.. half his precious 5000 tickets in the hands of anti GCU Kiwis!!

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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As to the first paragraph, I think you are thiinking a bit to hard on this one. GC have done a good job playing wise but the club itself hasn't really addressed the issue of building a fanbase, it was predicted that crowds wouldn't be great before the season kicked off.

Normo's coming home

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Going to go through the season unbeaten  3 down, 24 to go. . . .  Oh so close . . .  NOT.
stevenivan2009-08-31 18:39:01
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Reading Bleibergs comments in one of the articles post match seems to have taken it pretty well, having a laugh about it even which I thought was odd.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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I started reading but couldn't get very far...
 
There is only one man to thank for the growth of the game in this part of the world and that is Frank Lowy. Palmer is a bandwaggoner.
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I love the way he says he wants to turn the game into Australias national sport and his aim is to give as many people as he can enjoyment.

By capping crowds at 5000. Logical.
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In my book, Zenon was man of the match for the effort he put in," Bleiberg said.

"He ran a marathon (against Sydney), usually a player runs about 10km in a game, he did double that.


Nice maths dumbarse
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Hey Palmer,
 
Why don't you fly down to Noocastle and have a Big Manlove-Fest with Con!!!
 
You can both take turns at "parking the ferrari in the garage!"

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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