#4k4nix - take the Corporate Challenge

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Think you're right. 

But its irrelevant. Nobody should be excluded from the prizes, and nobody is. 

On the prizes, is there any update on the lunch when we reached 1k? We are now over double that amount and haven't heard about it or about any more prizes. 


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over 12 years ago
DMC-4-3 wrote:

See with you lot its The Zone and then theirs the public. The Zone and forum members get this and that - General public gets nothing except name calling.

The Yellowfever has divided itself from the general public. Looking at AFC + SFC and more so WSW there is the Red and Black army but there all WSW fans and they all sing it. That does not happen in Wellington - Why? Divided. There's no "We are" Its "Us then you".

But maybe that's the mentality of the YellowFever and "There Zone". 



I actually think this guy is serious! what's scary is that this could well be the perception that the YF is all about the us and them - totally not the case from what I've seen - I mean alot of us in the YF are not in thje zone - me included. If, however this is the perception and this guy is putting it out there we may have some reason for concern.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago
DMC-4-3 wrote:

The Yellowfever has divided itself from the general public. Looking at AFC + SFC and more so WSW there is the Red and Black army but there all WSW fans and they all sing it. That does not happen in Wellington - Why? Divided. There's no "We are" Its "Us then you".


I think what Run DMC means is that it's generally the Zone that leads chants and hardly anyone else joins in.

Therefore it's all those c*nts in the zone's fault that no one else joins in the singing and chanting.


As a non-zone member I think you are all a bunch of selfish cocks/twunts/munters.


"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 12 years ago
Junior82 wrote:
DMC-4-3 wrote:

The Yellowfever has divided itself from the general public. Looking at AFC + SFC and more so WSW there is the Red and Black army but there all WSW fans and they all sing it. That does not happen in Wellington - Why? Divided. There's no "We are" Its "Us then you".


I think what Run DMC means is that it's generally the Zone that leads chants and hardly anyone else joins in.

Therefore it's all those c*nts in the zone's fault that no one else joins in the singing and chanting.


As a non-zone member I think you are all a bunch of selfish cocks/twunts/munters.



Yes, if the Zone's chants were louder, funnier and more tuneful then I would join in more. Zone's fault.
Actually in the case of Stand Up this is literally true.

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over 12 years ago

Nah, we just need ONE chant to sing for 90 minutes

That's where we're going wrong.



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over 12 years ago
nufc_nz wrote:

Nah, we just need ONE chant to sing for 90 minutes

That's where we're going wrong.


I went to see Watford vs West Brom once and the West Brom fans did "Boing Boing Baggies" for pretty much the whole game. I have to say it was pretty cool.

However, this was in the context of spending an afternoon in Watford so if someone had been bludgeoning me in the head with an axe it probably would have seemed pretty cool too.

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Watford vs West Brom.


...why?


Edit: Was she worth it?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 12 years ago
nufc_nz wrote:

Nah, we just need ONE chant to sing for 90 minutes

That's where we're going wrong.


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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
DMC-4-3 wrote:

The Yellowfever has divided itself from the general public. Looking at AFC + SFC and more so WSW there is the Red and Black army but there all WSW fans and they all sing it. That does not happen in Wellington - Why? Divided. There's no "We are" Its "Us then you".


I think what Run DMC means is that it's generally the Zone that leads chants and hardly anyone else joins in.

Therefore it's all those c*nts in the zone's fault that no one else joins in the singing and chanting.


As a non-zone member I think you are all a bunch of selfish cocks/twunts/munters.



Yes, if the Zone's chants were louder, funnier and more tuneful then I would join in more. Zone's fault.

Actually in the case of Stand Up this is literally true.



Well that's why I go to watch football matches; the humorous songs of the intelligentsia
And for the record I've never, ever been in the fever zone. My season ticket seat has always been in Aisle 23, Row N.
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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

Anyways...moving on to much much more interesting things.


Season ticket sales have plateaued at about 10 a day...how do we ramp that up? 


For me, we need to switch thinking from renewals (easy sell) to new tickets (harder). 


How do we do that? What prizes can I find that might tempt a NEW season ticket holder.



Is the price being promoted much?  I don't see many of the ads (as I rarely read the Dom Post offline) so not sure how much they are pushing it - i.e. $169 for 10 games!  Seems like a bargain to me, but I just can't see that 'outsiders' are aware of this value and maybe won't bother to go and find out either.

Can't we get some ads on Stuff.co.nz?  Don't know about others, but I visit that site about 10 times a day, at least!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

Do we (WPFC, that is) do much advertising on the radio?

I don't listen to the radiogram much, because the inane prattle of DJs tends to bring on nosebleeds and an overwhelming desire to strangle myself, but, that said, I believe it is popular amongst many of the sporting masses. 


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over 12 years ago
the ant wrote:

Do we (WPFC, that is) do much advertising on the radio?

I don't listen to the radiogram much, because the inane prattle of DJs tends to bring on nosebleeds and an overwhelming desire to strangle myself, but, that said, I believe it is popular amongst many of the sporting masses. 




I have heard radio ads, although they sound a bit 'cheesy' to me with whatever the slogan is (I think, "WE ARE PHOENIX")...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

That's it!



BOUNCY CASTLES!!

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

Must say I'm envious of the Victory being able to do this. Always thought a Phoenix paint job on a train would be great advertising.




Can see lots of Victory fans walking into that though, like birds flying into a window.

It also stops their stabby fans from tagging the tram! 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

 


How do we do that? What prizes can I find that might tempt a NEW season ticket holder.

How's about transport and accommodations for every home game for one lucky out of towner???

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

Anyways...moving on to much much more interesting things.


Season ticket sales have plateaued at about 10 a day...how do we ramp that up? 


For me, we need to switch thinking from renewals (easy sell) to new tickets (harder). 


How do we do that? What prizes can I find that might tempt a NEW season ticket holder.


These things have a pretty standard pattern, big first push then plateau, then another push towards the actual season start.  In the end I think there are still 100 days until the start of the season.  For new members I'd suggest holding off the big push until that last month.  I'd be bigging up the price, I'd also be making a real push about watching sport in the sun at the stadium (ignore the weather and kick off times).

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago
Junior82 wrote:


R.I.P.

Legend. 
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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

Nah, we just need ONE chant to sing for 90 minutes

That's where we're going wrong.


I went to see Watford vs West Brom once and the West Brom fans did "Boing Boing Baggies" for pretty much the whole game. I have to say it was pretty cool.



Sounds good...

I got subjected to this by some Stockport County fans. It was an away match at Crystal Palace. The key is 'critical mass'. When they started with a few joining in it was OK. Not great but OK. However, as the numbers dropped off.....    That said, all credit to the core of fifteen or so who made it through both halves...
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 12 years ago

Back to the thread purpose. From a conversation I had up at Victoria last week. There seems to be a perception that the prices are high. When I told the two I was speaking with that student season tickets were only $119 they a bit shocked....  both saying 'are you sure?'. Took them to the site and showed them. (How difficult is to check a price anyway?)


How do you counter price perception?

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 12 years ago

By actually adding the price and the price per game to all advertising. I've found that quite lacking actually, and its a major drawcard that isn't being marketed to people. 


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over 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Anyways...moving on to much much more interesting things.


Season ticket sales have plateaued at about 10 a day...how do we ramp that up? 


For me, we need to switch thinking from renewals (easy sell) to new tickets (harder). 


How do we do that? What prizes can I find that might tempt a NEW season ticket holder.


These things have a pretty standard pattern, big first push then plateau, then another push towards the actual season start.  In the end I think there are still 100 days until the start of the season.  For new members I'd suggest holding off the big push until that last month.  I'd be bigging up the price, I'd also be making a real push about watching sport in the sun at the stadium (ignore the weather and kick off times).

I reckon they should be pushing the All Whites WC playoff preferential buying offer for season tickets purchased before 5pm 31 July.
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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

At the point where we are mostly trying to sell it to newbies I would like to see the Nix enter a new phase of advertising focusing on a few really key individuals/selling points:

1. Ernie Merrick has won the A-League twice before.

2. Carlos Hernandez has won the A-League before and been Player of The Year.

3. If we sign Kenny Cunningham, then we have two Costa Rican internationals, latin flair etc. Could even go so far as putting all members in a draw for a holiday in Costa Rica or something (trip to the intercontinental play-off maybe?).

4. The Nix this year really will be a new and exciting team.

These are obviously initiatives for the Nix not so much Yellow Fever, although we can help pump those messages to friends, family, workmates.


This is spot on. The people that haven't jumped on the bandwagon already need these sorts of short-snippets they can cling on to.

a.haak

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over 12 years ago
valeo wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

At the point where we are mostly trying to sell it to newbies I would like to see the Nix enter a new phase of advertising focusing on a few really key individuals/selling points:

1. Ernie Merrick has won the A-League twice before.

2. Carlos Hernandez has won the A-League before and been Player of The Year.

3. If we sign Kenny Cunningham, then we have two Costa Rican internationals, latin flair etc. Could even go so far as putting all members in a draw for a holiday in Costa Rica or something (trip to the intercontinental play-off maybe?).

4. The Nix this year really will be a new and exciting team.

These are obviously initiatives for the Nix not so much Yellow Fever, although we can help pump those messages to friends, family, workmates.


This is spot on. The people that haven't jumped on the bandwagon already need these sorts of short-snippets they can cling on to.

plus best value sport in wellington, with best atmosphere
it's unbelievable that student and normal adult silver prices aren't part of the advertising pitch
it's also unbelievable that the pre-season games don't get any airtime on the website imho
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over 12 years ago

A kids season ticket is $45.

That's outstanding value.

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over 12 years ago

^ wow that's a real eye opener, so cheap


Lets open a creche

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under 4's are free so a kids is 4+

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago

You guys have all completely lost the plot. 


ITT:  things that WE CAN DO - Yellow Fever, us, you and me - to achieve #4k4nix.


This thread is not about what you would do if you were the Phoenix marketing manager.


So, suggesting that the Phoenix should change their advertising to include the price is interesting (not really) but doesn't belong in this thread. 


Can we please get back on topic? Thanks.


And, what have YOU done to help! If everyone in this thread sells 1 season pass to a friend then that's another 20 easy. Get to it, this is OUR club...!

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

On the prizes, is there any update on the lunch when we reached 1k? We are now over double that amount and haven't heard about it or about any more prizes. 


Sorry, I went on holiday and no c*nt does anything around this place unless I make them.

We've locked in Ernie, Iffs, Luke Adams and Henry Tait for lunch and now I just need to get the Nix to generate me a list of 10 winners (all from the Zone of course cos that's what we're like) and I'll email them out.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Tegal wrote:

On the prizes, is there any update on the lunch when we reached 1k? We are now over double that amount and haven't heard about it or about any more prizes. 


Sorry, I went on holiday and no c*nt does anything around this place unless I make them.


We've locked in Ernie, Iffs, Luke Adams and Henry Tait for lunch and now I just need to get the Nix to generate me a list of 10 winners (all from the Zone of course cos that's what we're like) and I'll email them out.



 
Cheers, awesome work!
On an earlier note, maybe some sort of reward for the most people signed up by one person could be a good one. Not sure how you'd measure this - the most obvious probably being the club checking each payment or booking to see which is the biggest (assuming they can do that) would be the simplest and fairest way (assuming it is a fever zone booking of course). 

Allegedly

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over 12 years ago

I bought 8...

I've told the Nighthawks that anyone without a season pass will be cut for next season.  They are all trying to return the passes they have already got now.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Tegal wrote:

On the prizes, is there any update on the lunch when we reached 1k? We are now over double that amount and haven't heard about it or about any more prizes. 


Sorry, I went on holiday and no c*nt does anything around this place unless I make them.


We've locked in Ernie, Iffs, Luke Adams and Henry Tait for lunch and now I just need to get the Nix to generate me a list of 10 winners (all from the Zone of course cos that's what we're like) and I'll email them out.



 

Cheers, awesome work!

On an earlier note, maybe some sort of reward for the most people signed up by one person could be a good one. Not sure how you'd measure this - the most obvious probably being the club checking each payment or booking to see which is the biggest (assuming they can do that) would be the simplest and fairest way (assuming it is a fever zone booking of course). 


That's a cool idea. Although Hard News might win because he does all our renewals. I'll exclude him though don't worry :)

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

OK Smithy, feeling suitably chastened by your admonishments I went and had a good, hard think about this on the toilet this arvo.

I have noticed that quite a few people have already been emailing around their workplace trying to get people interested so I started thinking about how we can leverage off that and make signing up even more appealing.

Name tbd but for now the Phoenix Workplace Challenge will do.

The rough idea is we want to find out the most supportive Phoenix workplace in the country.

There are four categories:

1. The highest number of Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

2. The highest percentage of Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace (to give the smaller workplaces something to aim for)

3. The highest number of new (season 2013/14) Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

4. The highest percentage of new (season 2013/14) Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

Some keen Phoenix fan in a workplace is the coordinator and takes responsibility for promoting Nix season tickets (emailing the membership brochure around, sticking up a few posters etc) and the challenge itself. They ask all current and future Nix season ticket holders at their work to let them know their membership number. At the closing date they send in all the membership numbers and the total size of their workplace so that the winners can be determined. The Nix are then asked to verify the membership numbers of the winning workplace in each category and if anythings screwy they're disqualified. The total number of people in an office will have to be an honesty thing.

Prizes tbd but some obvious possibilities are t-shirts for every winning workplace member, maybe organise a shout for the winning workplace(s) at the Backbencher on a matchday, or even get the club involved with organising a box or lounge at a game. Something worthwhile anyway. And maybe an individual prize for the winning coordinator(s).

Exactly the same challenge could be used for clubs (and the total numbers in that case are much easier to verify) and individual teams. Maybe even schools or classes?

The bottom line is it hopefully gives people trying to get their work mates/club mates/team mates to buy season tickets a much more interesting, fun and legitimate way to do so than simply emailing around saying "Hey, why not buy a season ticket?". I'm sure some talented Feverite could even help put an email template, poster etc together for people to use.

Anyway, I'm sure you get the gist of it.

And that is my picture.

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over 12 years ago

Very nice picture!

(That must have been an awesome sesh on the bog)


"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

By actually adding the price and the price per game to all advertising. I've found that quite lacking actually, and its a major drawcard that isn't being marketed to people. 



Correct.  I just have no idea why.

Surely in most cases when you ask someone if they want a ticket for something, one of the first questions is "how much?".

As for what WE can do, I don't know, but the club aren't helping themselves with their secret pricing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

3. If we sign Kenny Cunningham, then we have two Costa Rican internationals, latin flair etc. Could even go so far as putting all members in a draw for a holiday in Costa Rica or something (trip to the intercontinental play-off maybe?).

This would only really work if the club or YF (not sure who you actually think would stump up the $10k for this) only put all the members in a draw for the holiday, and didn't ever pick a winner.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 12 years ago
Frankie Mac wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

3. If we sign Kenny Cunningham, then we have two Costa Rican internationals, latin flair etc. Could even go so far as putting all members in a draw for a holiday in Costa Rica or something (trip to the intercontinental play-off maybe?).

This would only really work if the club or YF (not sure who you actually think would stump up the $10k for this) only put all the members in a draw for the holiday, and didn't ever pick a winner.



True. Although $10k is only about 60 new memberships, so it could pay for itself pretty quickly. Either that or ask Henry Tait for the money. He probably blows that kind of cash at lunchtime.

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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

OK Smithy, feeling suitably chastened by your admonishments I went and had a good, hard think about this on the toilet this arvo.

I have noticed that quite a few people have already been emailing around their workplace trying to get people interested so I started thinking about how we can leverage off that and make signing up even more appealing.

Name tbd but for now the Phoenix Workplace Challenge will do.

The rough idea is we want to find out the most supportive Phoenix workplace in the country.

There are four categories:

1. The highest number of Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

2. The highest percentage of Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace (to give the smaller workplaces something to aim for)

3. The highest number of new (season 2013/14) Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

4. The highest percentage of new (season 2013/14) Phoenix season ticket holders in a workplace.

Some keen Phoenix fan in a workplace is the coordinator and takes responsibility for promoting Nix season tickets (emailing the membership brochure around, sticking up a few posters etc) and the challenge itself. They ask all current and future Nix season ticket holders at their work to let them know their membership number. At the closing date they send in all the membership numbers and the total size of their workplace so that the winners can be determined. The Nix are then asked to verify the membership numbers of the winning workplace in each category and if anythings screwy they're disqualified. The total number of people in an office will have to be an honesty thing.

Prizes tbd but some obvious possibilities are t-shirts for every winning workplace member, maybe organise a shout for the winning workplace(s) at the Backbencher on a matchday, or even get the club involved with organising a box or lounge at a game. Something worthwhile anyway. And maybe an individual prize for the winning coordinator(s).

Exactly the same challenge could be used for clubs (and the total numbers in that case are much easier to verify) and individual teams. Maybe even schools or classes?

The bottom line is it hopefully gives people trying to get their work mates/club mates/team mates to buy season tickets a much more interesting, fun and legitimate way to do so than simply emailing around saying "Hey, why not buy a season ticket?". I'm sure some talented Feverite could even help put an email template, poster etc together for people to use.

Anyway, I'm sure you get the gist of it.

And that is my picture.


That's awesome thinking. I will see what can be done.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

Also keep something for the "random draw" kinda thing - don't want to disengage those who aren't in the most/highest/bestest etc... bluddy good stuff just quietly (or loudly if that's your gig).

E + R + O

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over 12 years ago

Nix just announced a spa pool is being drawn at some point. All season members (not just those in the feverzone) have their name in the pool. 


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