Does the final weekend's fixtures disadvantage us?

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Does the final weekend's fixtures disadvantage us?
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Having looked at the current league table, if we win on Friday in Melbourne, Adelaide and Central Coast just need to draw with each other on Sunday to win the title and get fourth place respectively.  Surely this is a huge disadvantage to us, the games should be played simultaneously to avoid this sort of situation.  Austria v West Germany World Cup '82 anybody?

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Have a look on the Nix v Tards thread
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Interesting point, why is it that the A-League don't have all the last round games on at the same time? Presumably its a TV issue.
In terms of it being a disadvantage you could look at it both ways, it could be seen as us going out and laying down the gauntlet to CCM, we won now come and get us if you are good enough. I think if we had won last week and had the second game this weekend it would have been a massive advantage because a draw may have got us there depending on the CCM result which would have allowed us to pick a different team (maybe) but because we have to win no matter what it doesn't really matter and psychologically may actually be the better option

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
...or we have to hope for a Roar victory on saturday nite (by at least 2 goals).
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
I still think if two teams know they only need to draw, there is no incentive whatsoever to go hell for leather just out from the playoffs.  It can affect choice of line up, tactics etc.  No teams should be given that sort of advantage.
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But as Stevo pointed out if we beat Melbourne then Queensland will definitely be looking to beat Perth - and should do - because they will go top. Adelaide will then need at least a point, but probably all three, against CCM to finish top themselves. It's only if Queensland don't beat Perth that will Adelaide then go into that last game knowing they've already won the minor premiership.

If we don't beat Melbourne then who cares?

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
terminator_x wrote:


If we don't beat Melbourne then who cares?



Uhhh... I dont know if I have missed something big like CCM being disqualified or something like that.
If we dont beat we dont go through to the finals series..
Players
Coaching Staff
Fans

Thats alot of people who care.


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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
I think he was implying that if we don't beat Melbourne then why does it matter when CCM play and whether that is a good/bad thing.
Does anyone know the actual reason though why the A-League choose to spread the last round out as opposed to other leagues who have the same kick off times?

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Stevo wrote:
...or we have to hope for a Roar victory on saturday nite (by at least 2 goals).



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bopman wrote:
I think he was implying that if we don't beat Melbourne then why does it matter when CCM play and whether that is a good/bad thing.


Exactly. My comment was in the context of the rest of my post. I tend to do that - follow one thought with another associated, relevant thought. Sorry if it threw you off Stefan, but it's nice to know you care anyway.


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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Yes, Queensland beat Perth by 2 or more and we avoid the potentially gut-wrenching situation.

I see them doing so, the Roar (let's face it) have been the form team in the A-League for some time. Perth have been awful on the road and notoriously struggle against Queensland, losing 4-1, 3-0 and 4-1 the past three regular season meetings.
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
bopman wrote:

Does anyone know the actual reason though why the A-League choose to spread the last round out as opposed to other leagues who have the same kick off times?


I'm sure it's the TV.
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
its just liek any other round of the season, one game Friday night, one/two on saturday and then the last game/s on sunday, all for tv. Doesn't really matter what other teams know or don't know....its a siomple thing we have to win! After that its a matter of watching and waiting. If we lose it don't matter what happens, if we win then its a nail biter, but we've done all we can.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
It is usual practice in most European leagues to play all the games in the last round at the same time to prevent any machinations.
But I guess it's not the standard practice in Australian sport, so A-league is no different in that respect.
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
I think the 8 games we lost are more of a disadvantage than the fixture list.

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Only way it will disadvantage us is if we lose on Friday it will f**k up the whole weekend.
 
p.s. Surely it should be "Do the final weekend's fixtures disadvantage us?"
Jag2009-01-20 15:18:34

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
bopman wrote:

Does anyone know the actual reason though why the A-League choose to spread the last round out as opposed to other leagues who have the same kick off times?


I'm sure it's the TV.


The draw was done months ago. The fact that it comes down to the last game is just luck-- or bad luck

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
bopman wrote:

Does anyone know the actual reason though why the A-League choose to spread the last round out as opposed to other leagues who have the same kick off times?


I'm sure it's the TV.


The draw was done months ago. The fact that it comes down to the last game is just luck-- or bad luck


Everyone's well aware of that. Some people are simply making the point that most European leagues play the last round of matches all at the same time to avoid this type of situation and why such a scenario doesn't apply in the A-league.
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
ginger_eejit wrote:
I think the 8 games we lost are more of a disadvantage than the fixture list.



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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Leggy wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
bopman wrote:

Does anyone know the actual reason though why the A-League choose to spread the last round out as opposed to other leagues who have the same kick off times?


I'm sure it's the TV.


The draw was done months ago. The fact that it comes down to the last game is just luck-- or bad luck
pretty usual for a league as tight as the HAL, you'd think that it wouldn't be too hard for the FFA to fix up the contract with FoxSports a little to avoid this for next year
You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago

If we beat you, the CCM will field a second rate team vs Adelaide.

 
That sucks.
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kiwi pie wrote:

If we beat you, the CCM will field a second rate team vs Adelaide.

 
That sucks.


Easy then, dont beat us!
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
He is just worried torne
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over 17 years ago · edited almost 14 years ago
Poor thread title grammar makes me sad .

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic 
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