Nix vs Sydney Sunday 9 Dec 4:30 + Tee Dubs vs Otago 1:45

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over 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

alexubels wrote:

I just want to congratulate the fever today for what was a top atmosphere in the fever zone in the first half.
It makes such a difference to the game day experience for everyone. 
Lets keep it up, I want to see huge crowds back at the tin and I believe the more noise in the fever zone the more likely people will want to keep coming back. Its add to the whole 'game day experience' 


My voice is fucked.

Oh Wellington remix FTW.

So no work for you today then?

here in body. Not in mind.

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playwithFire wrote:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8057017/Herbert-rips-into-misfiring-Wellington-Phoenix 

Herbert actually ripping into our performance for once! I like tyler, but not sure he was worth a start.. definitely would bring in fenton for Ifill though

 

Its kind of interesting to read that Ricki has ripped into his players...really?  Ive known the Nix to play worse than this and Ricki has stated that he has got positives out of the shit play...so why rip into his players now?   perhaps because the crowds are getting less, or maybe Welnix are on his back, either way I think that maybe new blood at senior levels is required.  I am in total agreement with Steve-O when he says that we have probably the most uncreative midfield in football

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 13 years ago

Never thought I'd ever say this but its time for a change at the top. Time for someone to come in with some new ideas and tactics and selections. Rickie has had six years in charge.....he's had complete control. Its his tactics and its his players. After six years the team has barely evolved.....the criticisms that are getting posted today are the same that are posted every year......poor laboured passing, hoof balls, poor crossing, poor player movement etc.

As someone pointed out in 442 the Nix are a two trick pony. Rugged defense and Paul Ifills creativity....thats what has papered over the cracks for the last few years. Well they are now conceding goals and Ifill is a shadow of his former self. Too many journeyman players, no creativity no clues.

 I am bitterly disappointed by this season....this was meant to be the year we meant to be challenging for the top two. Every other year we cut the team lots of slack because of the multitude of excuses....."we are a new team or we have money problems or we have ownership issues etc".  There are no excuses this year, Rickie got his European striker, he got the team he wanted, he has got his Academy, he has got the backup staff he wanted, the back office is stable, the ownership is stable, there are no money worries.....so whats up?

He won't get sacked midseason so we have to try and look at the positives for the rest of the season. We will probably grind out enough results to not finish bottom 4. Maybe Sanchez into AM might help....or even try Fenton there...but we are grasping at straws here....the top eleven played against Sydney. It will be a miracle if we make the Grand Final.

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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:
Targeting families is fine, but if you look at the advertising, it's playing up the fever zone.  Which is just stupid.

You are suggesting we have a marketing plan? I think a few people would question that. Clemenger might be our most disappointing off season signing.

If the Club is targeting families, they need to focus on that. Let the Fever 'sell' the Fever Zone experience to the public.

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over 13 years ago

 ...still feel miserable.... 

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 13 years ago

austin10 wrote:

Never thought I'd ever say this but its time for a change at the top. Time for someone to come in with some new ideas and tactics and selections. Rickie has had six years in charge.....he's had complete control. Its his tactics and its his players. After six years the team has barely evolved.....the criticisms that are getting posted today are the same that are posted every year......poor laboured passing, hoof balls, poor crossing, poor player movement etc.

As someone pointed out in 442 the Nix are a two trick pony. Rugged defense and Paul Ifills creativity....thats what has papered over the cracks for the last few years. Well they are now conceding goals and Ifill is a shadow of his former self. Too many journeyman players, no creativity no clues.

 I am bitterly disappointed by this season....this was meant to be the year we meant to be challenging for the top two. Every other year we cut the team lots of slack because of the multitude of excuses....."we are a new team or we have money problems or we have ownership issues etc".  There are no excuses this year, Rickie got his European striker, he got the team he wanted, he has got his Academy, he has got the backup staff he wanted, the back office is stable, the ownership is stable, there are no money worries.....so whats up?

He won't get sacked midseason so we have to try and look at the positives for the rest of the season. We will probably grind out enough results to not finish bottom 4. Maybe Sanchez into AM might help....or even try Fenton there...but we are grasping at straws here....the top eleven played against Sydney. It will be a miracle if we make the Grand Final.


somehow I don't think it was Ricki's plan for th lads to play so poorly - tactically 4-3-3 m=is an attacking shape, the players he has on the field are attacking players - he cannot make them play better once the whicstle is blown. The two early subs of Fenton and Boyd were clear indications that he wasn't happy.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 13 years ago

Outpost wrote:

Tzyon wrote:

Team at full strength against a side that's been floundering on the bottom of the league. A home game, opposing team sans their star players, decent weather for once, better crowd turn-out... and nothing from the Phoenix. Who among them actually turned out to play? That was just a passive and uncreative a performance from a group of players who should be worth more. No energy and no ideas. Surely Ricki can get more from them than that.

I can enjoy a Phoenix game even when they get thumped but that just wasn't enjoyable to watch. More performances like that and the club will bleed attendees. No-one wants to see that.

Also to whoever it was, if you're going to throw a plastic Speights bottle in a justified rage can you put the cap on it first? Ta.



The most disappointing thing for me is that all week I've been worried that we would dish up precisely that passionless, uncreative performance, but kept telling myself, no, they must surely be fully aware of how important this game is in so many ways. Yet out they went and served up a "shower of shit". Of all ten teams I watched this weekend we were easily the most toothless and unadventurous.

 

Have to agree I'm sad to say. I was hoping the Phoenix would turn on some attacking football but frankly I don't think this team has the creativity in midfield. Balls have to be played to Huysegems feet, just hoofing them into the box irrespective if anyones in position is not going to work. Can someone please kick Brockie up the bum and tell him football's a 90 minute game.

Why don't the Phoenix swoop in Ian Hogg, he's a fast wing back who could lend some bite and is available (I gather)?

I think it's Ricki who needs to be shaken from his comfort zone as much as the players. He doesn't seem to have any ideas. When you're down why bring off your best attacker for Fenton (who I'd like to see get more game time)?

I'm also very disappointed in ACFC's toothless display the Club World Cup too if that's any consolation. They went into it not to conceed rather than trying to score goals. Bad week all round for Kiwi football.

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over 13 years ago


I got my "Smash My Boxall" tee signed by the man himself last night.  Highlight of the day.

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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over 13 years ago

Yesterday was painful, I think we hit rock-bottom in terms of a 90 minute performance.

However, on this one occasion I don't think the blame need extend any further than the starting eleven. That was such a shocking, appalling, miserable display by eleven guys who just didn't bother to show up that any other possible contributing factors are completely irrelevant.

Even debate about the squad's inherent limitations shouldn't feature in the post-mortem of that performance. Yes, Muscat, Lia and Smith are not a very creative midfield but yesterday was appalling even by their own limited standards. They were not even close to playing their best.

So I say don't write off the season yet. We are still top six and this is actually our equal best-ever start to the season. We have been here before and got through it. We cannot possibly play worse than yesterday again and the league is so tight that even a small run of form will see us move up the ladder.

I am much more concerned about what yesterday's pathetic display will do to the crowds. Welnix need to get the message through to Herbert and the players that they will not accept another performance like that. Either win or entertain, preferably both.


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over 13 years ago

theprof wrote:

austin10 wrote:

Never thought I'd ever say this but its time for a change at the top. Time for someone to come in with some new ideas and tactics and selections. Rickie has had six years in charge.....he's had complete control. Its his tactics and its his players. After six years the team has barely evolved.....the criticisms that are getting posted today are the same that are posted every year......poor laboured passing, hoof balls, poor crossing, poor player movement etc.

As someone pointed out in 442 the Nix are a two trick pony. Rugged defense and Paul Ifills creativity....thats what has papered over the cracks for the last few years. Well they are now conceding goals and Ifill is a shadow of his former self. Too many journeyman players, no creativity no clues.

 I am bitterly disappointed by this season....this was meant to be the year we meant to be challenging for the top two. Every other year we cut the team lots of slack because of the multitude of excuses....."we are a new team or we have money problems or we have ownership issues etc".  There are no excuses this year, Rickie got his European striker, he got the team he wanted, he has got his Academy, he has got the backup staff he wanted, the back office is stable, the ownership is stable, there are no money worries.....so whats up?

He won't get sacked midseason so we have to try and look at the positives for the rest of the season. We will probably grind out enough results to not finish bottom 4. Maybe Sanchez into AM might help....or even try Fenton there...but we are grasping at straws here....the top eleven played against Sydney. It will be a miracle if we make the Grand Final.


somehow I don't think it was Ricki's plan for th lads to play so poorly - tactically 4-3-3 m=is an attacking shape, the players he has on the field are attacking players - he cannot make them play better once the whicstle is blown. The two early subs of Fenton and Boyd were clear indications that he wasn't happy.


I'm sorry but if you look at our starting 11 we have 3 attacking players...

The only one in form is Brockie.

And another thought about the subs, why did Ricki bring Ifill off for Totori ? Keep him on and take off Lia or manny. Otherwise it's like for like when it clearly wasn't working. 2 nill down, We should have thrown everything at it.



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over 13 years ago

Ifill was playing very poorly. It's strange, I seem to be the only one who didn't have a problem with the substitutions yesterday? 


Allegedly

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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Ifill was playing very poorly. It's strange, I seem to be the only one who didn't have a problem with the substitutions yesterday? 

I would have taken off Lia or Muscat rather than Waffles and gone to the 4-1-3-2. We were only losing by 1 then, but it would have been a more positive move to try and chase the game.
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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Ifill was playing very poorly. It's strange, I seem to be the only one who didn't have a problem with the substitutions yesterday? 



I didn't have a problem with them. Smith, Huysegems and Ifill were all playing rubbish and at least the first two got dragged early. You really could have picked anyone though.

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over 13 years ago

yeah feel stein has been treated a little harshly with his substitutions. would have pulled smith and Ifill. Smith was obviously struggling. 


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over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Ifill was playing very poorly. It's strange, I seem to be the only one who didn't have a problem with the substitutions yesterday? 



I didn't have a problem with them. Smith, Huysegems and Ifill were all playing rubbish and at least the first two got dragged early. You really could have picked anyone though.

Thought Huysegems played well when he was on the ball
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over 13 years ago


From now on, we simply cannot have Ifill and Huysegems starting together. Both of them lack in pace and movement which leaves no options from our defense of midfield to release the ball.

They both have good feet and can pass the ball well themselves, but having two statues in our attacking third is simply too easy for the opposition to cover.

Was getting sick of watching us hold on to the ball for far too long in the midfield trying to search for someone to play the ball to.

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over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Yesterday was painful, I think we hit rock-bottom in terms of a 90 minute performance.

However, on this one occasion I don't think the blame need extend any further than the starting eleven. That was such a shocking, appalling, miserable display by eleven guys who just didn't bother to show up that any other possible contributing factors are completely irrelevant.

Even debate about the squad's inherent limitations shouldn't feature in the post-mortem of that performance. Yes, Muscat, Lia and Smith are not a very creative midfield but yesterday was appalling even by their own limited standards. They were not even close to playing their best.

So I say don't write off the season yet. We are still top six and this is actually our equal best-ever start to the season. We have been here before and got through it. We cannot possibly play worse than yesterday again and the league is so tight that even a small run of form will see us move up the ladder.

I am much more concerned about what yesterday's pathetic display will do to the crowds. Welnix need to get the message through to Herbert and the players that they will not accept another performance like that. Either win or entertain, preferably both.




First time I've seen people, like lots, leaving the gates at halftime. Says it all really. They'll be lucky to get 4,000 next time, unless they beat Adelaide, and that won't happen.

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over 13 years ago

 Think Ifill should start off the bench and one or both of Louis or Totori should start. Don't think Boyd has offered enough to warrant his place on the bench. He hasn't done much more than Pav did...perhaps it's time to call for Cameron Lindsay or Boxall to the bench?

Back to 442?



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over 13 years ago

 That really hurt. We went to the game feeling that we would get a good win- everything seemed to be in our favour (except the "let's promote the other-team" marketing balls up- what the hell were they thinking about? I didn't go to see El Petrol, and no non-football fan would even know who he is- he's not farkin Best or Pele!).

We've done much bettter in previous seasons before we got this year's signings, who show great promise as individuals. There's plenty of talent in the Nix. What seemed to be missing was motivation (although pro footballers should find this in themselves, of course).

That leaves management in the hot seat- time for a serious ass-kicking session. As a long time season pass holder (along with all of my family) I go to football to be entertained and cheered up. We can all wear the occasional loss, it's the nature of sport, but no-one wants to spend a great deal of their hard-earned to watch a side that looked so abjectly clueless.

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE! (at least get rid of Lia, who seems to be at the heart of any/all of our negative play).

Not entirely sure what the answers are though....but if the management don't move VERY quickly I think the Nix will go down the gurgler in short order- there are already major gaps in the Fever Zone, and if the management can't even keep this group of fanatical nutters happy they/we are in deep shite.

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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over 13 years ago

 Oh, and Smith played his guts out again, even after he got the Glasgow Kiss. And I like watching Totori- he's the Crazy Ivan of football, no-one ever knows what he's going to do next (which at least is entertaining)

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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over 13 years ago

I was amazed at how our back four struggled to play the ball out. It was the same old pass it along the backline but as soon as they tried to play it to the midfield, there was no option. Manny and Lia did at times make themselves available but they either didn't receive the ball or when they did, they passed it straight back to Siggy or Dura. This in turn led to the hopeful long ball.

Our three man midfield is getting crowded out by the opposition as a lot of the time yesterday, I saw Brockie Ifill and Stein all in a high line basically waiting for the ball. Do the maths, if the opposition plays a five man midfield, our guys will always be up against it to try and hold onto posession.


 

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over 13 years ago

Funny how it was about a year ago I sat in the warm sun in the stadium and watched us give the Jets??? a good arse kicking. Sanchez and Daniel were on fire....we played with good flair and pace. Maybe thats what we are lacking now. This team is now full of runners....good solid grafters....its what Ricki seems to prefer in a player. After the Jets thrashing Rickie went all conservative and banished Sanchez to the wing and Daniel to the bench and we never played with such freedom again.

Maybe if we can get Sanchez fit and get someone like Fenton providing a spark down the flank then not all is lost. Certainly when the youngsters have come on late in the last few games they have lifted the tempo. Rickie needs to have a good hard look at this team....6 of them are over 30 and some of them are playing like they are over 40.

 Two things could happen now. One Rickie will bite the bullet and tell some of the underperformers that its time up and get some fresh faces in there or two , he will circle the wagons, get conservative and try and grind out back to the wall type results with the guys he know and trusts.

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over 13 years ago

I agree, despite Ricky showing his displeasure with the early subs I think it were a knee jerk reaction & Stein was badly done by. As for Smith, he is one of the best players on the park each week but yesterday he got knackered in the face & it seemed to bother him from there on. Smithy seems to me to be a great utility player, the sort of player who can fit in up front or midfield AND, wait for it....centre back. To play three at the back they all need to be class centre backs & I feel Smith could easily fill that role.



Paston



Sigmund
Durante
Smith

Bertos

Muscat

Lockhead



Sanchez


Fenton

Hysegems



Brockie












Ifill could come in for Stein but really, right now we are getting more from Stein. Just a thought.

                                                                                                                                                                                              

     

                                                                                                           

 

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over 13 years ago

that game was indeed probably one of the best we have played in terms of style of footy.

Interestingly, I believe Ifill wasn't playing that day, and Muscat was at LB?? 


Manny doesnt seem to often try and pick up the ball from the back 4, it seems he is more often dropping back and sits between the two CBs so that Lochy & and Leo can press forward even more.. which is a great tactic. However whre it all falls apart is that the other midfielders and strikers stay pushed up and we have to long ball it


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over 13 years ago

austin10 wrote:

Funny how it was about a year ago I sat in the warm sun in the stadium and watched us give the Jets??? a good arse kicking. Sanchez and Daniel were on fire....we played with good flair and pace. Maybe thats what we are lacking now. This team is now full of runners....good solid grafters....its what Ricki seems to prefer in a player. After the Jets thrashing Rickie went all conservative and banished Sanchez to the wing and Daniel to the bench and we never played with such freedom again.

Maybe if we can get Sanchez fit and get someone like Fenton providing a spark down the flank then not all is lost. Certainly when the youngsters have come on late in the last few games they have lifted the tempo. Rickie needs to have a good hard look at this team....6 of them are over 30 and some of them are playing like they are over 40.

 Two things could happen now. One Rickie will bite the bullet and tell some of the underperformers that its time up and get some fresh faces in there or two , he will circle the wagons, get conservative and try and grind out back to the wall type results with the guys he know and trusts.

Correct, and it will be the latter. Whatever, the Phoenix need to get it sorted real quick. That was the last straw for thousands of fans with another crap home display. Fever zone's becoming more spacious and this forum (up until venting post this game) has been really quiet.  Welnix and Herbert are thick as thieves, so no pressure will be going on there. And that maybe their undoing.        

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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Ifill was playing very poorly. It's strange, I seem to be the only one who didn't have a problem with the substitutions yesterday? 


I didn't have a problem with them, other than I would've swapped Boyd and Totori.
Maybe given Stein another 5 minutes.
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over 13 years ago

Subbing at 54 and not 60 min what was Ricki thinking ??

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over 13 years ago

Just wish the club would tell us what's up with the players. Like they weren't even interested. What the hell is going on. Didn't they get paid last week. No passion, not guts. Just like that time when Serepisos had to meet the players to find out what the problem was. Saw a couple of players bounce out of their Courtney Place pub later on happy as larry, so obviously being mediocre's acceptable for them. How does wooden spoon sound.

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over 13 years ago

tonya wrote:
Saw a couple of players bounce out of their Courtney Place pub later on happy as larry, so obviously being mediocre's acceptable for them.


What would you rather they do? Go home and collectively cut themselves?


It was a poor result, but that doesn't really have anything to do with how they spend their downtime.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

tonya wrote:
Saw a couple of players bounce out of their Courtney Place pub later on happy as larry, so obviously being mediocre's acceptable for them.


What would you rather they do? Go home and collectively cut themselves?


It was a poor result, but that doesn't really have anything to do with how they spend their downtime.


Completely agree.  I get so sick of hearing this (not just for the Phoenix, but pretty much every professional sport - see the last Jesse Ryder incident in Napier).  Professional sportsmen shouldn't be expected to be home by curfew and sit in the naughty corner when they lose, even if it is after such a terrible performance as the one they dished out on Sunday afternoon.
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over 13 years ago

Grandadi wrote:

 That really hurt. We went to the game feeling that we would get a good win- everything seemed to be in our favour (except the "let's promote the other-team" marketing balls up- what the hell were they thinking about? I didn't go to see El Petrol, and no non-football fan would even know who he is- he's not farkin Best or Pele!).

We've done much bettter in previous seasons before we got this year's signings, who show great promise as individuals. There's plenty of talent in the Nix. What seemed to be missing was motivation (although pro footballers should find this in themselves, of course).

That leaves management in the hot seat- time for a serious ass-kicking session. As a long time season pass holder (along with all of my family) I go to football to be entertained and cheered up. We can all wear the occasional loss, it's the nature of sport, but no-one wants to spend a great deal of their hard-earned to watch a side that looked so abjectly clueless.

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE! (at least get rid of Lia, who seems to be at the heart of any/all of our negative play).

Not entirely sure what the answers are though....but if the management don't move VERY quickly I think the Nix will go down the gurgler in short order- there are already major gaps in the Fever Zone, and if the management can't even keep this group of fanatical nutters happy they/we are in deep shite.


+1 to all of this. It's performances like that, that actually make me worried for the club's future. 
Something needs to change quickly
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over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

tonya wrote:
Saw a couple of players bounce out of their Courtney Place pub later on happy as larry, so obviously being mediocre's acceptable for them.


What would you rather they do? Go home and collectively cut themselves?


It was a poor result, but that doesn't really have anything to do with how they spend their downtime.


Probably the same guy who had a go at Jesse Ryder for having a drink after a loss. 


Allegedly

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over 13 years ago

One of the great things about NZ sport is that the media and the supporters don't care about what the players do in their personal time anywhere near as much as what happens overseas, and it should stay that way. I don't care what they do in their own time, I just care about them putting in 100% effort during their 'work hours' which we are all helping to finance.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

One of the great things about NZ sport is that the media and the supporters don't care about what the players do in their personal time anywhere near as much as what happens overseas, and it should stay that way. I don't care what they do in their own time, I just care about them putting in 100% effort during their 'work hours' which we are all helping to finance.


I agree if its a story if they are spotted at 2am the night before a game (mid 90's Chris Cairns), but a week out from a match with little to no influence on an upcoming game is completely irrelevant.
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over 13 years ago

Also, the Nix players are having their Christmas function today. Anyone want to complain about that?


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

2 disturbing factors from the game for me.

With Nick Tansley not present I thought the chicken looked all lost at sea and a shadow of it's former self.

Sad state of affairs when I said I'd go and get the chips with 6 to go til half time - not because there'd be a queue but because at that point I was more worried about missing the half time entertainment than part of the game. It only took me 2.45 to get back, enough time to see Sidknee score.

and another point - I know he was terribly expensive so had to go, but what a difference Daniel would have made in the past few efforts if he came on with 20 to go. God forbid having a player who could create something in the right direction.


 

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over 13 years ago

Christmas is for winners! Sack Santa! ANGST!

Am I HardNews in disguise?

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Steve-O wrote:

Absolute and utter garbage, which is what we've seen for 90% of this season so far.

Ricki is so comfortable in his position Welnix may as well get him a Lazyboy chair to watch the game from.

Utter lack of creativity, we created approximately ZERO clear cut chances, and I can recall their keeper making one save - a long range effort from Lia, which should've actually been a pass to Huysegems since Lia was never going to score.

I think we can safely say (and I'm talking to you Ifill) that the weather is NOT to blame, and the utterly boring fare on offer IS.

Tactics appear to be as follows: pass it around the back 4 and keeper, and when that becomes a bit boring, HOOOOOF it up the park and hope for the best.  Oh and if ever you are on the wing, cross the ball into the box regardless of anyone is there or not (probably not).

Ifill has lost it completely and needs to be dropped.  Brockie is far too lazy and casual.  We do not get Huysegems into good positions and give him the ball despite him proving he'll finish chances.  We should've started Totori or brought him on earlier, at least he is direct and tries to pick out players when he puts a cross in.

Lia, Smith, and Muscat = the most boring and uncreative midfield ever known in world football.

All in all, utter crap and I cannot see a single point being gained from Adelaide or CCM games.

Change is needed and IMO it starts with Ricki.  He's done.


How many times has Steve-O made this exact same post?
It'd be funny to see someone go back and collect them all - could be a decent laugh.

We aren't going well but the fact is there is still no better option than Ricki right now. If you can see an obvious successor, then by all means point it out.

a.haak

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over 13 years ago

Someone suggested Ramon Tribuliex (not sure about spelling) and got a few likes.


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