Canterbury United

Sean Devine?

who are the better quality players overlooked, in your opinion?? Not that I’m disagreeing with you just interred to know who people think should be there. 

Sorry my fault, have amended original post.

  You have a side in Cashmere Technical who romped the league, and easily won a SI final. I can't see how you wouldn't have the majority of players from that type of team. Like the old Auckland rugby team of the 90s making up most of the All Blacks.

  Add in the fact to get any Southern or Tasman players in, you have to commute back and forth in not exactly a wealthy league, or transfer your life to a different area of the country. Jobs are certainly plentiful after COVID? Maybe if Canterbury were a region of fruit harvesting we could attract lots of people?

  I am happy to put my hand up and say I've worked 1st hand with Lee at Selwyn, and saw what he did to turn the club from where it was. I know what sort of person he is and how hard he works, but I don't know the in's and out's of Canterbury United, so I cant comment on his role there.

  Is he a bad coach? Of course he isn't. I have watched the 3 games this season and they have got better. No niceties though, it's still 0 from 3. I want them to win as much as the next fan. However, to say pick better players is one thing, but back it up. Who are the ones who can commit to training 3-4 times a week, and then play? And are they better than anyone in the squad? 

  Happy to see the names fly in

Maybe there lies the big problem. Cash Tech romping the league year in year out, its clearly working well for Canterbury football. This has been the same for a number of seasons so why is padmores record so poor compared to others before him who have had mostly Cash Tech players? 

Whilst Lee clearly done well at Selwyn club as a whole, on the pitch they didn't perform particularly great they eventually made it to the mpl. I have mentioned before that working with juniors he seems very good but I am yet to see any evidence to say he is a good coach with senior players. 0 from 3 this season and 1 draw 10 losses from the previous 11 games is unacceptable. 

Regarding other possible players, having spoke to some of the Nelson people they had no interest once they found out all the resources were being put into Garbhan. 

I didn't know what you were talking about until I saw that he's now competitions assistant and a football development manager at Mainland. I didn't see that advertised. 

There is now a competitions manager, assistant competition manager, and an competitions assistant. It must be a big job organising all those grades. I wonder what they do after April?
 

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I guess the performance and results don’t matter now. 

What is the governance structure these days all seems to have developed into one umbrella full of what you would call 'incestuous' relationships back to Mainland.  Who sets KPIs?  Who is Padmore reportable to?  Seems like he is reportable to himself?

What does the high performance team named in the program do?

Never mind the answer to the above strange how things go full circle - back to a club centric model. 

You might as well put the programme notes into a comic strip. To say the league is close from bottom to top is just deluded. Where did this guy come from and to talk about making the region proud. Bottom of the league and no wins in 13 games is probably not the time to start talking about this. No mention of training this week so I can only assume it’s been average. Why is someone like Andy pitman or John Brown not in charge of this team? They wouldn’t accept these results or any of the attitudes in the squad. What’s happened to king this season 

The fact of the matter is that after the announcement from NZ Football about the disbandment of the current format of the Premiership, Mainland Football will be very happy, as they can off load the burden of running Canterbury United while the staff can continue to collect their salaries to run the federation without the necessary efforts to run the Canterbury United franchise.

lol. he may have had his faults, but Colin Grant ran all senior and junior competitions himself for years.

Back when he started there would not have even been a piece of modern technology to help just a busy card matrix laid out on the floor

Actually, Dave Elder wrote the competition draw software way back (c.1990) when he was on the CFA Executive. Life member of Mainland Football.

3-0 win over HBU this afternoon including a pearler from well outside the box by Garbhan Coughlany, who I thought looked the most dangerous player all day.

Yes a timely win for the Dragon's up in Napier after a scoreless opening half. Goals to Ihaia Delaney 51' - against his former club, Garbhan Coughlan 68' and Yuya Taguchi 71', with Dragon's now moving above HBU in the table.

The other three games in Round 4 all ended in draws - Team Wellington vs. Auckland City and Eastern Suburbs vs. Waitakere both finishing 2 - 2 with Hamilton Wanderers finishing 1 - all with the Wee Nixs.

Dragon's now face Auckland City in a double header at English Park next Sunday - Dragons at 4pm with the Pride facing the Northern Lights at 1pm.

Tom Schwarz as i said before not many get the better of him ,  he was superb as were the back four and defensive lads in front of the back four. 

Gee their back 4 were big lads weren't they?

Got to agree.  Love his runs from the back as well.  Do you know what has happened to Ben Stroud?

Carrying a injury at the moment.

Back to back wins today after Jacob Richards scored in the 90th minute to edge Auckland City 1 - 0 first time that the Dragons have toppled City at home since 21 December 2008 - won 2 - 1 that date, with goals to Tommy Lancaster and Gareth Turnbull.

Away to Team Wellington next Saturday.  

AW82 you may have to update your coaches table as it looks like Mr Padmore's has overtaken 2 on the list with his win today. Would also be interested to know how many of the previous coaches have had success v Auckland city. 

It was only Canterbury's seventh win in 44 meetings with Auckland City

Their wins have been

2005-06 3-2 (a), 2-1 (h)

2006-07 3-0 (a)

2008-09 2-1 (a)

2009-10 3-0 (h)

2010-11 1-0 (a)

Not sure who the coaches were (have the names but not the dates) AW82 should know that though

On order of games above:

Danny Halligan 3 wins 

Korouch Monsef 1 win

Keith Braithwaite 2 wins

Geez the silence on here is deafening. What a great day at English Park yesterday, two Canterbury teams who worked themselves into the ground and certainly done themselves proud. It will be a challenge for the Dragons to make the top 4 but I would happily watch them play like that each week even if the results don’t fall. Best thing was, aside from Delaney, they are all Chch based players who contribute to our football community year round. Will be a sad day when the Dragons bow out of the league, I can’t see any club teams replicating the match day experience that you get at the Dragons

Yup, as I've mentioned before, I don't know how many people are going to go along and support a club team rather than a regional one. I guess we will find out next year.  

Agree we will find out - i would say i have been to Central League games with better attendances than the NL games in welly i have made it to thus far.

Cashmere Dragons membership and merch?

Coastal Pride coming soon too. 

Seems like this forum only used for those that want to sing when we’re losing.....

Another good crowd got treated to quite a battle with Dragons landing another deserved win. 

Yes a good 'old fashion battle' with the Dragon's bagging another three points, maybe be the 'baggers' are still away on holiday. 

Entertaining encounter at Seddon Fields ended 3-3. Football was pretty dire and the surface can't really be blamed as both teams play on turf regularly. Canterbury reminded me a bit of the old Christchurch United teams where the opposition had to fight for the right to play. Canterbury should have been well clear at 2-0 against 10 men with half an hour to go. Wasted a truckload of chances and then found themselves 3-2 down. Coughlan finished the equaliser well but up till then i was thinking that if he was paid to play then a refund would have been in order. A few bits of controversy re the officiating but from where i was neither side had much to complain about. Burfoot 2 tellows - dissent and then a reckless tackle - nothing to complain about there. Canterbury penalty reversed - my initial reaction from about 20 yards away was that keeper won the ball and attacker fell over him. Waitakere penalty given on AR call - from 100 yards away it looked like a hand ball. Had to admire Waitaks spirit but really Canterbury should have won comfortably. Good value for money - DISCLAIMER - you don't pay to get in at Seddon Fields

What was that deal with the young lad on the far side in a long dress and head gear dancing up a storm!

Football was pretty dire and the surface can't really be blamed as both teams play on turf regularly.

Enough has been said about the state of Seddon fields to counter this view. Teams can practise all they like on artificial but if it is in poor shape, has uneven bounce and is in need of replacement, you can expect poor touch and poor games. It's a shocker compared to others in the country they play on. Oh to be playing on decent grass which at this level is a far better spectacle.

Orangutan. You were looking at the Zoo.

I guess what i meant to say was that both teams play on turf so should be used to it. 

Seddon is dreadful for the players and not a lot better for spectators.

Both teams lumped it forward consistently - maybe the surface , maybe just lack of skill

Here is how the table looks after our 2 - 0 loss to Team Wellington yesterday, with the final round to be played next weekend.

2020	P	W	D	L	F	A	+/-	Pts
Auckland City FC	13	8	3	2	25	11	14	27
Team Wellington	13	6	5	2	32	19	13	23
Hamilton Wanderers	13	5	5	3	20	17	3	20
Waitakere United	13	4	5	4	26	24	2	17
Eastern Suburbs	13	4	4	5	24	23	1	16
Canterbury United	13	4	3	6	16	23	-7	15
Hawke's Bay Utd	13	4	1	8	16	27	-11	13
Wellington Phoenix Reserves	13	2	4	7	17	32	-15	10

Dragon's at home to Wellington Phoenix Reserves on Saturday at 2pm - need to win to have any hope of reaching the top four play-offs, while needing Auckland City to defeat Waitakere (3pm Saturday) and Eastern Suburbs to lose or draw away to Hawkes Bay on Sunday at 4pm. 

The other game is between Team Wellington and Hamilton Wanderers in Saturday at 1pm. 

Whatever happens will be the final ever home game for the Dragon's so let ensure a bumper crowd at English Park. 

All the games in the last round should really be played at thr same time  but guess that's too much to expect from NZF.