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Well that's a gem. Not just the goal, but how he has to slow his run and couple of times and then dash in front of his marker before he can even strike the ball. That takes a lot of awareness (and guts to try the cheeky back heel).

Well done Tyler. Score a few more, give up on your star and striped dreams and come wreck havoc with with the AW down under!

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Boyd has certainly hit the ground running in Turkey. One goal and two assists in three games. If he keeps this up he will be in for a decent move in the summer transfer season. There are plenty of clips on Youtube of the match(most of them sharke quality) Big noisy crowd and looks like an excellent supporters end.......who gave Boyd a great goal celebration.

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I feared for him a little bit when he left the Nix but to be fair to him he is starting to carve out a decent wee career for himself in Europe. Tough ask to head to Portugal where I'm willing to bet there's not much English being spoken. Looked like he was playing in front of a decent home crowd in Turkey in that clip too.

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Fair play to the kid, he took the risk to head to Europe and is making a decent fist of the opportunities he has been given, unlike a few others who had a crack and for whatever reason haven't quite hit the ground running. He had a good solid season with Tondela a year back, but still found himself unable to crack the starting XI regularly at Guimaraes when he went back. So takes the chance to move to Turkey and doesn't look a step out of place which bodes well for him. 

Does anyone else reckon we'll ever see him in an AW's jersey again? I still think he's a bit off the radar for USA selection, but if he keeps up this good start in Turkey, who knows? At least if he did get a chance, he'd get a lot more opportunities than our current flock of AW's players... 

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YoungHeart wrote:

Fair play to the kid, he took the risk to head to Europe and is making a decent fist of the opportunities he has been given, unlike a few others who had a crack and for whatever reason haven't quite hit the ground running. He had a good solid season with Tondela a year back, but still found himself unable to crack the starting XI regularly at Guimaraes when he went back. So takes the chance to move to Turkey and doesn't look a step out of place which bodes well for him. 

Does anyone else reckon we'll ever see him in an AW's jersey again? I still think he's a bit off the radar for USA selection, but if he keeps up this good start in Turkey, who knows? At least if he did get a chance, he'd get a lot more opportunities than our current flock of AW's players... 

I think he’ll leave it as late as possible this WC cycle before declaring his hand.

Depends how his club career goes, and if he gets a ph call at all from Team USA. Though apparently in his position there is already a young potential US superstar. Someone in the Bundesliga?

Also maybe depends who the AWs draw in the Confed playoff draw later this year ie how easy/hard is AWs qualification for Qatar. Contributing factor why he didn’t bother last cycle, when we drew South America? Lastly Confeds Cup 2021 if it still exists and the AWs qualify may tempt him, as on an international stage and a few club scouts having a look.

Annoying but as he said he’s spent equal amounts of time living NZ and stateside, family in both. Citizen of the world. Probably helped him adapt mentally being in Europe away from whanau and friends, more than some. Hard to get homesick if you are not sure where home is.

Maybe currently Turkey’s most popular Christian.

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I think he'd have to have a huge progression to be called by team usa (even more than he's already achieved). In a way the fact that he is constantly overlooked can only be good for us, so hopefully closer to WC he decides playing SOME international football is better than none and commits to us

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Boyd’s hot Turkish form continues. Credited with two assists and the 4th goal as Ankaragücü beat Antaylaspor 4-2.

Orgill the Jamaican with a hat trick as Ankaragücü move away from the drop, and are now 11th. Boyd scores late at 96 mins.

I went to Turkey 20 years ago and from memory, Antalya is getting down towards the Syrian border.

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coochiee wrote:

Boyd’s hot Turkish form continues. Credited with two assists and the 4th goal as Ankaragücü beat Antaylaspor 4-2.

Orgill the Jamaican with a hat trick as Ankaragücü move away from the drop, and are now 11th. Boyd scores late at 96 mins.

I went to Turkey 20 years ago and from memory, Antalya is getting down towards the Syrian border.

No, south coast on the Med, beautiful part of the country.
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coochiee wrote:

Boyd’s hot Turkish form continues. Credited with two assists and the 4th goal as Ankaragücü beat Antaylaspor 4-2.

Orgill the Jamaican with a hat trick as Ankaragücü move away from the drop, and are now 11th. Boyd scores late at 96 mins.

I went to Turkey 20 years ago and from memory, Antalya is getting down towards the Syrian border.

No, south coast on the Med, beautiful part of the country.

You are right. Now looking at a map confused I think with Antakya, which was last Turkish city we were in before crossing over to Aleepo. The Syrian tragedy.

Anyway happier matters, and here's some match/goal highlights. Ankaragücü in white and Boyd number 30.

https://footyglobal.com/2019/03/01/antalyaspor-vs-...

Orgill pretty much poached a goal off Boyd for his 2nd. Boyd's looping cross/shot would have gone in anyway?

Looks like game could have gone either way, with Antaylaspor hitting the post late when 2-3 down.

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Writer at americansoccernow.com is noticing...

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One can only speculate what country he would choose with the hot form he's in. Any position in the AW would be his for the taking but for USA he would be competing in a greater talent pool and the player competing for his current position would be Borrusia Dortmund player Christian Pulisic. The USMNT have alot of young players scattered in Europe and in the MLS but I could see Boyd being a really influential player with the young talent in that team.

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Sancho wrote:

One can only speculate what country he would choose with the hot form he's in. Any position in the AW would be his for the taking but for USA he would be competing in a greater talent pool and the player competing for his current position would be Borrusia Dortmund player Christian Pulisic. The USMNT have alot of young players scattered in Europe and in the MLS but I could see Boyd being a really influential player with the young talent in that team.

Yeah, people keep saying "he'll get nowhere near the USMNT" but reality is, bar Pulisic he's one of the best 'American' attackers outside the MLS when you look at ability, form and league

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mrsmiis wrote:

Sancho wrote:

One can only speculate what country he would choose with the hot form he's in. Any position in the AW would be his for the taking but for USA he would be competing in a greater talent pool and the player competing for his current position would be Borrusia Dortmund player Christian Pulisic. The USMNT have alot of young players scattered in Europe and in the MLS but I could see Boyd being a really influential player with the young talent in that team.

Yeah, people keep saying "he'll get nowhere near the USMNT" but reality is, bar Pulisic he's one of the best 'American' attackers outside the MLS when you look at ability, form and league

I don't think he is close to the US team. There's many others outside of the US ahead of him, Weah for a start who can play that position ahead of Boyd, and there's many in the MLS who they'd probably rather anyway.

Has had a few good games at his loan club which is great, but would need a heck of a lot more than that to get close to the US team.

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The reality is he's unlikely to be forced to choose anytime soon. He can just refuse AWs call-ups for the next few years and try to make the US team. If the AWs qualify for the 2022 World Cup that might force his hand as it would be hard to turn down a world cup appearance. But before then, why would he not keep his options open? 

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Colvinator wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Sancho wrote:

One can only speculate what country he would choose with the hot form he's in. Any position in the AW would be his for the taking but for USA he would be competing in a greater talent pool and the player competing for his current position would be Borrusia Dortmund player Christian Pulisic. The USMNT have alot of young players scattered in Europe and in the MLS but I could see Boyd being a really influential player with the young talent in that team.

Yeah, people keep saying "he'll get nowhere near the USMNT" but reality is, bar Pulisic he's one of the best 'American' attackers outside the MLS when you look at ability, form and league

I don't think he is close to the US team. There's many others outside of the US ahead of him, Weah for a start who can play that position ahead of Boyd, and there's many in the MLS who they'd probably rather anyway.

Has had a few good games at his loan club which is great, but would need a heck of a lot more than that to get close to the US team.

We might be underestimating the ability of Vitoria - one of the better teams in what most people consider the best league in the world outside the top 5. Was expecting a very hard journey for Boyd trying to work his way into that side.

Weah would likely be striker in USA's lineup, and Boyd's been playing on the flanks for the past few seasons so probably not too much crossover there - past Pulisic, it's practically a free for all, and Boyd is playing at a better level right now than other wingers they've called up recently - Julian Green, Kenny Saief, Jonathan Amon, etc etc. If Boyd keeps his form up he'll have some serious choices to make

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Since no one here is working for US Soccer, it's impossible to know for sure, if he's seriously on their radar or not.

Team US has two friendlies in March against Chile & Ecuador.

The US coach could just do a Hudson, and look to 'cap tie' Boyd in either game. I'm not sure how that then works for Boyd if he is capped in a friendly by the US, I presume he can't then jump back to the AWs later on?  ie just the one national team allegiance change in a career?

Obviously be very disappointing if that happened, Boyd's far more valuable to NZ, than the USA. 

But the AWs have done it plenty of times (well grabbed age group internationals from other nations), so glasshouses and stones.

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coochiee wrote:

Since no one here is working for US Soccer, it's impossible to know for sure, if he's seriously on their radar or not.

Team US has two friendlies in March against Chile & Ecuador.

The US coach could just do a Hudson, and look to 'cap tie' Boyd in either game. I'm not sure how that then works for Boyd if he is capped in a friendly by the US, I presume he can't then jump back to the AWs later on?  ie just the one national team allegiance change in a career?

Obviously be very disappointing if that happened, Boyd's far more valuable to NZ, than the USA. 

But the AWs have done it plenty of times (well grabbed age group internationals from other nations), so glasshouses and stones.

Yep, you can only switch once, so that would be that.

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This could be Boyds break out season if he keeps up his Turkey form. To say he has hit the ground running at Ankragucu would be an understatement. Five games and he has four assists and two goals. That is an outstanding start considering he has gone mid season to another league with a new culture and language to adapt to. I watched the extended highlights of his last match and he is actually now quite a good player. His movement with and without the ball was outstanding. Hard to tell how well he defends but on attack he was very very good.

The turkish league is no pub league. THey have teams like Galatasary, Besiktas, Fenebarche who are not European elite but can compete in the next level below in European competitions. There supporters are second to none....I have only been to one match in Turkey and the crowd was amazing. I think Besiktas hold the record for loudest ever recorded stadium crowd noise. 

I am really happy for Boyd. He has worked his arse off to get where he is now. If all the planets align he could be in for a decent transfer move at the end of the season. He will almost certainly be scouted by clubs across Europe. Not at elite level but IMO he could play for a mid level team in Germany or France.

As for international level. The USA would be along shot...but why would he not want to reach for the highest level. Whats NZF got to offer. No AW games for 500 days? Disorganised, disfunctional.....why would anyone want to commit to that?

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el grapadura wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Since no one here is working for US Soccer, it's impossible to know for sure, if he's seriously on their radar or not.

Team US has two friendlies in March against Chile & Ecuador.

The US coach could just do a Hudson, and look to 'cap tie' Boyd in either game. I'm not sure how that then works for Boyd if he is capped in a friendly by the US, I presume he can't then jump back to the AWs later on?  ie just the one national team allegiance change in a career?

Obviously be very disappointing if that happened, Boyd's far more valuable to NZ, than the USA. 

But the AWs have done it plenty of times (well grabbed age group internationals from other nations), so glasshouses and stones.

Yep, you can only switch once, so that would be that.

A technicality, but it's Boyd's U20 appearances in official FIFA competitions (2013 U20 WC) that actually provisionally cap-tie him. Friendly caps, at the YNT and senior NT level, do not change anything about a player's International eligibility, something to keep in mind.

FIFA eligibility rules work like this:

Cap-tie a player in a YNT tournament, and they can still file a one-time-switch to any country that they were eligible for at the time of the cap-tying event.

Cap-tie a player in a Senior-level tournament, and they cannot file a one-time switch to any country.

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gunnerfan7 wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Since no one here is working for US Soccer, it's impossible to know for sure, if he's seriously on their radar or not.

Team US has two friendlies in March against Chile & Ecuador.

The US coach could just do a Hudson, and look to 'cap tie' Boyd in either game. I'm not sure how that then works for Boyd if he is capped in a friendly by the US, I presume he can't then jump back to the AWs later on?  ie just the one national team allegiance change in a career?

Obviously be very disappointing if that happened, Boyd's far more valuable to NZ, than the USA. 

But the AWs have done it plenty of times (well grabbed age group internationals from other nations), so glasshouses and stones.

Yep, you can only switch once, so that would be that.

A technicality, but it's Boyd's U20 appearances in official FIFA competitions (2013 U20 WC) that actually provisionally cap-tie him. Friendly caps, at the YNT and senior NT level, do not change anything about a player's International eligibility, something to keep in mind.

FIFA eligibility rules work like this:

Cap-tie a player in a YNT tournament, and they can still file a one-time-switch to any country that they were eligible for at the time of the cap-tying event.

Cap-tie a player in a Senior-level tournament, and they cannot file a one-time switch to any country.

  

I know perfectly well how the rules work, I was just answering Coochie's question in the scenario he gave. Boyd's already represented NZ in age-group and friendly A level, so is still eligible to switch to USA if he were called up because he has a US parent. But if he did that, there'd be no coming back to All Whites because you can switch only once.

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Not Body related but I see shocking news from the Turkish secon division where a player attacked a few opponents with a razor blade!
Absolutely mental scenes and I hope he gets banned for life.

https://www.planetfootball.com/videos/watch-player-in-turkish-third-tier-stabs-opponents-with-razor-blade-on-pitch/

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90 mins in a 0-0 draw against Bursaspor

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90 mins in a 3-1 loss at Yeni Malatyaspor.

Given shocking tragedy in ChCh hopefully Boyd is safe over there in Turkey. Unfortunately close to Syria, and likes of IS and their sympathesiers. Too much hate alround sadly.

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Scores as Ankaragucu draw 1-1 with Fenerbahce.

Fenerbahce struggling this season in 13th place, 1 spot above Ankaragucu.

Both on 32 pts and 5 pts above relegation zone with 7 matches to go.

Seems like a bit of drama late with 2 yellows, and 2 reds issued post 90 mins.

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Nice strike with the left foot.

Looks like Fenerbahce dominated, and the Ankara keeper had a big game.

http://hlfc.veuclips.com/player/html/J4QoSmmRTg?popup=yes&autoplay=1

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Well taken goal and great sprint to get into that position in the first place.
Loved how chilled the ref was with tackles flying and players dropping like flies. That's my style of refereeing right there. Let them play and don't fall for diving!

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Another goal for Boyd, as Ankaragücü currently lead away from home 1-0. About 5 minutes left in that one. Huge result for Ankaragücü if it stays that way as they look to get a little further away from the relegation zone.

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Finished 2-0. Boyd with a well taken goal, tapping past the keeper after a deep cross from the right, squeezed in between two defenders to knock it past the keeper. Showed good awareness for the 2nd too, taking a quick throw and catching the defenders napping to finish the game. 

From the footage I've just watched, he seems to be a very popular member of the side already - hugs and high fives all round after the match. Definitely enjoying his Turkish sojourn thus far by the looks.

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His goal
https://streamable.com/0cfj0

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If he ends up accepting a USA call up I wouldn't blame him. At least he would actually get international games with them.

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Yeah not an easy goal to score at all.
Also re USA call up, I think he would accept one if one ever came but don't think he's on their radar.
Up to Tyler to make up his mind as he's still young. Wait and see or eventually commit to NZ and play international football..

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Did a bit of reading and digging around and there seems to be more and more chatter about him in a pretty positive light. Although you do have to read articles closely as he has a namesake who plays wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals in the NFL (They're born about a month apart as well).

Americans Abroad - Player Watch - 4/14/19

New Zealander-American winger Tyler Boyd scores again for Ankaragucu

Boyd standing out in Turkey

Just some of the pieces I've found on him, and it seems that since his move to Turkey, his profile has only grown, especially with some of the performances he's been turning in. Still a fair bit off from being called up I feel, but if he keeps up his good form then he could well have some serious decisions to make.

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From what I’ve read he’s absolutely on their radar. USA have no good foreign-based wingers after Pulisic and Weah, if you want to count him as a winger. Their manager Berhalter is very MLS-centric though so will likely prioritise domestic based players over foreign ones

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Saw this on the A-League reddit

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90 mins as Ankaragücü draw 0-0 with Konyaspor.

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What forced his decision? A USA call up or All whites qualifying for the WC?

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90 wins in a 4-1 loss at Besiktas.

Besiktas obviously one of the bigger clubs in Turkey, and currently 3rd on the table and still in the title race.

Istanbul Basaksehir are top and 3 pts ahead of Besiktas and Galatasaray (2nd).

Meanwhile Ankaragucu are 6 points above the relegation zone, with 4 rounds left.

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Copied from this week's Flying Kiwis. 

"They can’t all be good ones and after three good games without a loss, the Ankers were pumped 4-1 by Besiktas this weekend. Tyler Boyd played a full game but it never really went right. They were 1-0 down inside ten minutes and conceded again early in the second half. A penalty made it 3-0 and Ankers were pretty much heading for defeat from there.

But a handball in the box made, spotted by the VAR, gave them a spottie of their own with a little over ten mins still on the clock, so up stepped Tyler Boyd to take it. Smooth run up and… it was saved. Then his follow up attempt was blocked by a sliding challenge and a teammate inexplicably sliced it wide with an open goal in front of him. Not the best passage of play, that’s for sure. Nice that Boyd was the man called upon to take it but doubt he gets the next one now. In fact he already didn’t, because the penalty was ordered to be retaken because of encroachment and Hadi Sacko took it instead, scoring to give his team a lifeline. Which they didn’t use, leaking one to complete the scoring here. "

https://streamable.com/2pl2s

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