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Posted November 29, 2021 22:20 · last edited November 29, 2021 22:52

https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop).

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway).

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him.

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay.

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries 
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and who knows what will happen between now and March. There are a few other fringe guys around likes of USL and Europe - but at least most of the above names have a likely AWs future, if you try turn this little mess into a longer term NZ football giving guys valuable experience, positive.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys (I've got about 8 in there). Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many of them were at the Olympics anyway, so not coming in blind. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ Dec MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

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Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:52
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop).

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway).

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him.

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay.

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries 
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and who knows what will happen between now and March. There are a few other fringe guys around likes of USL and Europe - but at least most of the above names have a likely AWs future, if you try turn this little mess into a longer term NZ football giving guys valuable experience, positive.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys (I've got about 8 in there). Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:51
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop).

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway).

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him.

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay.

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries 
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and who knows what will happen between now and March. There are a few other fringe guys around likes of USL and Europe - but at least most of the above names have possible AWs future, if you try turn this little mess into a longer term NZ football positive.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys (I've got about 8 in there). Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:47
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop).

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway).

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him.

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay.

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries 
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and who knows what will happen between now and March. There are a few other fringe guys around likes of USL and Europe - but at least most of the above names have possible AWs future, if you try turn this little mess into a longer term NZ football positive.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:44
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and who knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:35
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to in March to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so trying to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and whole knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Lots of moving parts to this. NZF staff and Hay are going to be busy bees. 

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:34
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and whole knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window (24th Jan-1st Feb). But that could just be too much to ask of the Nix and Talay especially. 

Alternatively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:31
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and whole knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window. 

Alterantively some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Embedding them in how AWs will play. Noting many oif them were at the Olympics anyway. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, early Jan and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:29
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and whole knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with those ALM guys in January window. Min some sort of 2-3 day training camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments. Hay can fly over to Aus post his 2 weeks NZ MIQ, and return NZ post Jan 15th without having to MIQ in NZ.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:27
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

Again bit pointless this early on, and whole knows what will happen between now and March.

But potentially not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with thos AL guys in January window. Min some sort of 2-3 day camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:24
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Fenton, Elliot, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

So not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with thos AL guys in January window. Min some sort of 2-3 day camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.

Unknown editor edited November 29, 2021 22:22
https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draw-set-for-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-ofc-preliminary-competition/

Okay so OFC tourney is due to start 14th March next year. Over 3 months away, so I'm sure a bit fultile to speculate yet, who & who may not be available for the first 2 pool games outside official March FIFA window.

But for some fun I'm gonna try.

Guys 'in season' come March who I reckon stand high chance of NOT being released by their paymaster clubs outside that window, would include - Thomas (important juncture at PSV), Singh (Jahn R chasing promotion), Just & McCowatt (Helsingor chasing promotion), Kirwan (Padova chasing promotion), and Woud (Burnley in fear of the drop). 

Probably Cacace out as well. Reid also if at a new club, re-establishing his career. Smith's Colchester could be near the League Two drop zone. Bell if at a Championship type new club establishing himself (should be okay if he's still in Norway). 

Marinovic in Israel no idea at all. Lets say no with Woud in a league (Dutch 2nd tier) with no relegation, he'll do. Champness obviously an off the bench goal threat for his Turkish club, who apparently will be around the relegation dogfight all season long. So no to him. 

MLS guys Mikey Boxall & Tuiloma who knows. MLS 2022 to start late Feb 2022. So being only a few weeks into the new season they may just let them go, knowing World Cups only come around every 4 years. Coach Heath at Boxy's Minnesota spat the dummy a little about him being being picked for the Olympics, but that was more mid season this year. And both clubs have had a pretty uninteruppted run with them until now, with AWs barely playing 2018-2020.

Swedish top tier will start around March 2022, but I reckon Francis de Vries would be okay. 

With the A League guys I have some blind faith, that between the APL and NZF they could work something out. Hay picking any A League guys, would see Nix most heavily affected. Sail, Payne, Mcgarry, Sutton, Elliott, Rufer, Lewis and Waine will all be in Hay's thoughts. Even Ben Old.

Have some sort of faith APL & Paramount would agree to rejog the draw to allow Hay to call up guys from the Nix, without ruining their season. If the Nix are going to be based in NSW until at least 30th April as seems likely, surely there is room to play some mid week fixtures, against other NSW based A League teams, so tring to create some NIx byes from March 14th??

Talay's a reasonable human. He knows all his Kiwi guys have had their AW chances screwed somewhat by Covid, and how all of them would love to go to Qatar if the AWs make it. Same Corica re Barba, and Poppa re Rojas.

Maybe Hay/NZF do a deal that A League guys are in Qatar for pool games only, before Hay can call upon all his big guns in the official window. With A League guys returning to their Aussie clubs early, unless Hay really needs them for the 2 knockout games hopefully AWs make. I guess OFC would then need to signoff on NZ effectively running a large 30 man type squad, over the whole tourney??

So I'm gonna guess Hay will be able to roll out an 11 like this, for first 2 pool games.

Sail
Payne (RB), M Boxall/Tuiloma, Pijnaker, Francis de Vries  
Stamenic, Garbett, Lewis
Barba, Rojas, Andre De Jong

Full bench something like - Woud, Searle, M Boxall/Tuiloma, N Boxall, Kalua, Dalton Wilkins, one of Mcgarry/Sutton, Musa, Owen Parker-Price/Rufer, Collier, Logan Rogerson, Waine

So not the worst AWs squad ever picked at all, especially if Hay can call up the A League guys. Lots of phone calls to be had, and ideally he wants contact also with thos AL guys in January window. Min some sort of 2-3 day camp in Aussie with those guys, around their ALM club commitments.

Edit - not sure if double vaccinated non Australian citizens (so Kiwi ALM players) can currently fly into NSW/VIC sans 2 weeks hotel MIQ, or is just Aussie citizens?? Again March is awhile away to look at that.