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2022 All Whites International Fixtures

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Posted June 16, 2022 16:38 · last edited June 16, 2022 19:47

Napier Phoenix

If we cant get a full strength NZ team to play in NZ then I wouldn't bother doing anything more than do the normal qualification games with the Islands and organise games anywhere when building our side for the world cup. We’d love to see the AWs at home but i’d rather save the money if we can’t get our stars to play here.

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than one game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level, all FIFA funded - that would be a big boost.

But the Island nations with their generally small populations (3rd world PNG excepted), and weak economies will always have a very limited upside. Football ain't the main sport in either PNG or Fiji - who will soon see their greatest ever player (Krishna) retire. Can't honestly ever really see them improving much. Solomons I feel are the best bet.

We are better to focus on playing bigger fish, to best prepare this AWs group for 2026. With maybe an annual ALM/domestic AWs verus ALM Socceroos fixture in NZ, to give the NZ football fan something, if Football Australia could be convinced to bother.

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Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 19:47

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than one game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level, all FIFA funded - that would be a big boost.

But the Island nations with their generally small populations (3rd world PNG excepted), and weak economies will always have a very limited upside. Football ain't the main sport in either PNG or Fiji - who will soon see their greatest ever player (Krishna) retire. Can't honestly ever really see them improving much. Solomons feel are the best bet.

We are better to focus on playing bigger fish, to best prepare this AWs group for 2026. With maybe an annual ALM/domestic AWs verus ALM Socceroos fixture in NZ, if Football Australia could be convinced to bother.

Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 16:51

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than one game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level, all FIFA funded - that would be a big boost.

But the Island nations with their generally small populations (3rd world PNG excepted), and weak economies will always have a very limited upside. Football ain't the main sport in either PNG or Fiji - who will soon see their greatest ever player (Krishna) retire. Can't honestly ever really see them improving much. Solomons feel are the best bet.

We are better to focus on playing bigger fish, to best prepare this AWs group for 2026. With maybe an annual ALM/domestic AWs verus ALM Socceroos fixture in NZ, if Football Australia could be convinced.

Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 16:50

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than one game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level, all FIFA funded - that would be a big boost.

But the Island nations with their generally small populations (3rd world PNG excepted), and weak economies will always have a very limited upside. Football ain't the main sport in either PNG or Fiji - who will soon see their greatest ever player (Krishna) retire. Can't honestly ever really see them improving much. Solomons feel are the best bet.

We are better to focus on playing bigger fish, to best prepare this AWs group for 2026.

Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 16:48

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than a game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level - that would be a big boost.

But the Island nations with their generally small populations (3rd world PNG excepted), and weak economies will always have a very limited upside. Football ain't the main sport in either PNG or Fiji - who will soon see their greatest ever player (Krishna) retire. Can't honestly ever really see them improving much. Solomons feel are the best bet.

We are better to focus on playing bigger fish, to best prepare this AWs group for 2026.

Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 16:46

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos. Was just desperrate to see any type of AWs team.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind), one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than a game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level - that would be a big boost.

Unknown editor edited June 16, 2022 16:39

Napier Phoenix

Tend to agree. Would have been dead keen for an AWs A League/domestic selection team playing during Covid, especially that short time pre Omicron with the TT border was opened. A game(s) against an ALM Socceroos.

But that time has passed. Some countries do operate almost two squads (Mexico springs to mind) one with just domestic players that can play outside the FIFA windows, and the other including their overseas guys.

I guess one time we could do that is the next edition of OFC Nations Cup, if it ever happens again. Without the Confederation Cup qualification carrot, it's likely a pretty meaningless comp for NZ. Especially if it's held in the Islands in the heat, on shark pitches etc. You don't send Chris Wood to that. But yeah why not send like an U23 team, with at eye on the Paris Olympics or something.

If we really want to help the Islands, they will get far more out of NZ assisting with setting up academies, quality coaching etc. The Solomons with likely biggest upside potential (popn 650,000) of the Island nations, opened a brand new academy back in January. Send over some Weenix/Ole coaches for 2 weeks to help out.

Each ALM club being able to sign one OFC (non Kiwi) as a non visa player, would also greatly help. However from memory someone here had a legitimate reason why that couldn't work. But these sorts of assistance measures would help them more than a game against a NZ ALM/domestic side.

Then if a East Asia/OFC Nations League ever happened, and they were regularly playing the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Burma, Laos, East Timor etc in games down at their level - that would be a big boost.