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All Whites' Dead End Road To Russia 2018

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Posted June 16, 2014 07:10 · last edited June 16, 2014 07:18

aitkenmike wrote:

I don't want automatic qualification and a four yearly thrashing. I want an established qualifying path that gives us regular meaningful football against good opposition so that if we do qualify we have had a decent buildup, and we can see meaningful games in NZ more than once maybe every four years.

I'll take the automatic qualification I reckon. My reason? Money. You guys can forget regular football without it. How many windows do we miss out on? Most of them. I don't give a shit if it makes for a few more uninteresting games, plenty of quality countries missed out. Throw in a few more spots for UEFA. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Slovakia, Czech Republic all missed out to name a few. 1 each to everyone else - Paraguay, Panama, NZ, Jordan, Egypt all capable of results.

I don't see how other confeds would want to incorporate us into their qualifying at the expense of their own nations missing out. We're pretty much going to be stuck with this 5 place play off type scenario which will work for us 1 out of 6 times. I'm not expecting us back at another WC unless we get an Asian play off again. That could be in 4 years, it could be in 20 years.

And then we can build on that from there. More money for more games in more windows, we'll get better from that alone I reckon.

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Smoodiver edited June 16, 2014 07:18

aitkenmike wrote:

I don't want automatic qualification and a four yearly thrashing. I want an established qualifying path that gives us regular meaningful football against good opposition so that if we do qualify we have had a decent buildup, and we can see meaningful games in NZ more than once maybe every four years.

I'll take the automatic qualification I reckon. My reason? Money. You guys can forget regular football without it. How many windows do we miss out on? Most of them. I don't give a shit if it makes for a few more uninteresting games, plenty of quality countries missed out. Throw in a few more spots for UEFA. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Slovakia, Czech Republic all missed out to name a few. 1 each to everyone else - Paraguay, Panama, NZ, Jordan, Egypt all capable of results.

I don't see how other confeds would want to incorporate us into their qualifying at the expense of their own nations missing out. We're pretty much going to be stuck with this 5 place play off type scenario which will work for us 1 out of 6 times. I'm not expecting us back at another WC unless we get an Asian play off again. That could be in 4 years, it could be in 20 years.

And then we can build on that from their. More money for more games in more windows, then try get a qualifying path if we feel we need it. We might not.

Smoodiver edited June 16, 2014 07:16

aitkenmike wrote:

I don't want automatic qualification and a four yearly thrashing. I want an established qualifying path that gives us regular meaningful football against good opposition so that if we do qualify we have had a decent buildup, and we can see meaningful games in NZ more than once maybe every four years.

I'll take the automatic qualification I reckon. My reason? Money. You guys can forget regular football without it. How many windows do we miss out on? Most of them. I don't give a shit if it makes for a few more uninteresting games, plenty of quality countries missed out. Throw in a few more spots for UEFA. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Slovakia, Czech Republic all missed out to name a few. 1 each to everyone else - Paraguay, Panama, NZ, Jordan, Egypt all capable of results.

I don't see how other confeds would want to incorporate us into their qualifying at the expense of their own nations missing out. We're pretty much going to be stuck with this 5 place play off type scenario which will work for us 1 out of 6 times. I'm not expecting us back at another WC unless we get an Asian play off again. That could be in 4 years, it could be in 20 years.