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Posted March 11, 2017 23:45 · last edited March 11, 2017 23:50

ConanTroutman wrote:

Ryan wrote:

That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far today.

 A name that he didn't even choose gives him more connection to a country than someone choosing to live there?

The name which reflects his Maori ethnicity? I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the name specifically but my point was that Reid has strong family ties here, and is tangata whenua. Besides the fact that he lived here until he was 10 and only lived 2 more years in Denmark than he lived here anyway.

 I actually personally don't give a shark about these "who is more connected to NZ" pissing contests anyway. If you're eligible and you wear the shirt with pride and passion then you're connected enough for me.

That was actually the point I was trying to make, where you were born has nothing to do with your connection to the country - so if that's the criteria it's wrong.

Ultimately, it's the nature of the beast for a number of countries including the US, Australia, and us.

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Ryan edited March 11, 2017 23:50
ConanTroutman wrote:
Ryan wrote:

That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far today.

 A name that he didn't even choose gives him more connection to a country than someone choosing to live there?

The name which reflects his Maori ethnicity? I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the name specifically but my point was that Reid has strong family ties here, and is tangata whenua. Besides the fact that he lived here until he was 10 and only lived 2 more years in Denmark than he lived here anyway.

 I actually personally don't give a shark about these "who is more connected to NZ" pissing contests anyway. If you're eligible and you wear the shirt with pride and passion then you're connected enough for me.

That was actually the point I was trying to make, if you were born here has nothing to do with your connection to the country - so if that's the criterea it's wrong. The example that I had was that Durante has lived here longer than some players who were born here but left and almost as long as Reid, so why does some arbitrary place of birth mean something? It doesn't.

Ultimately, it's the nature of the beast for a number of countries including the US, Australia, and us.

Ryan edited March 11, 2017 23:47
ConanTroutman wrote:
Ryan wrote:

That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far today.

 A name that he didn't even choose gives him more connection to a country than someone choosing to live there?

The name which reflects his Maori ethnicity? I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the name specifically but my point was that Reid has strong family ties here, and is tangata whenua. Besides the fact that he lived here until he was 10 and only lived 2 more years in Denmark than he lived here anyway.

 I actually personally don't give a shark about these "who is more connected to NZ" pissing contests anyway. If you're eligible and you wear the shirt with pride and passion then you're connected enough for me.

That was actually the point I was trying to make, if you were born here has nothing to do with your connection to the country - so if that's the criterea it's wrong. The example that I had was that Durante has lived here longer than players who were born here but left and almost as long as Reid, so why does some arbitrary place of birth mean something? It doesn't.

Ultimately, it's the nature of the beast for a number of countries including the US, Australia, and us.

Ryan edited March 11, 2017 23:47
ConanTroutman wrote:
Ryan wrote:

That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far today.

 A name that he didn't even choose gives him more connection to a country than someone choosing to live there?

The name which reflects his Maori ethnicity? I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the name specifically but my point was that Reid has strong family ties here, and is tangata whenua. Besides the fact that he lived here until he was 10 and only lived 2 more years in Denmark than he lived here anyway.

 I actually personally don't give a shark about these "who is more connected to NZ" pissing contests anyway. If you're eligible and you wear the shirt with pride and passion then you're connected enough for me.

That was actually the point I was trying to make, if you were born here has nothing to do with your connection to the country - so if that's the criterea it's wrong. The example that I had was that Durante has lived here longer than players who were born here like Smith and almost as long as Reid, so why does some arbitrary place of birth mean something? It doesn't.

Ultimately, it's the nature of the beast for a number of countries including the US, Australia, and us.

Ryan edited March 11, 2017 23:46
ConanTroutman wrote:
Ryan wrote:

That is the stupidest thing I've heard so far today.

 A name that he didn't even choose gives him more connection to a country than someone choosing to live there?

The name which reflects his Maori ethnicity? I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the name specifically but my point was that Reid has strong family ties here, and is tangata whenua. Besides the fact that he lived here until he was 10 and only lived 2 more years in Denmark than he lived here anyway.

 I actually personally don't give a shark about these "who is more connected to NZ" pissing contests anyway. If you're eligible and you wear the shirt with pride and passion then you're connected enough for me.

That was actually the point I was trying to make, if you were born here has nothing to do with your connection to the country - so if that's the criterea it's wrong.

Ultimately, it's the nature of the beast for a number of countries including the US, Australia, and us.