Post history

History for coochiee

All Whites v Lithuania | Mon 18th November | 2.55am | SS7

Current version

Posted November 18, 2019 23:51 · last edited November 19, 2019 02:35

newzealandpower wrote:

COnst wrote:

Totally agree. That was not a cheap trip. NZ football have very limited funds and to waste them like this.... In most national teams competitors have to prove themselves first, not well, we will take you to the other side of the world, give you a start and see if you can lift your game by 300%. This was a situation where very inexperienced, tame and underdeveloped players were given starting berths. Outcome were predictable. Hello....

For me it demonstrates the massive naivete of the coach, and in NZF for giving him the job.

The problem is, we have to take expensive trips to gain any kind of meaningful game and grow as a team. We don't have the Nations League to compete in (like almost everyone else does) and our ability to get meaningful games in the Islands is limited.

I personally would like to see us target Southeast Asia and the middle East to play friendlies. Somewhere 'in the middle' where players can converge and where we can play teams that, whilst not powerhouses, could still give us a good run for our money.

Either that or join Asia and grow tenfold like Australia did.

With AFC Asian Cup qualifying, and AFC World Cup qualifying - there are very few free windows for AFC sides.

One of the reasons (not the only one) as to why we haven't played the Socceroos for nearly a decade (June 2011).

Though someone like Iran - could become available for friendlies in 2020. They are currently 3rd in their WC qualifying group and at risk of not making the next stage.

There may also be some CONCACAF teams available to play in March 2020 window?? Their Nations League qualifying wraps up in this Nov window, and their Nations League finals series is in June 2020.

With inter confederation playoffs in March 2022 is effectively a 66.67% chance will be a Latino side (CONCACAF or CONMEBOL) so why not grab the chance to play say likes of Costa Rica/Honduras/Panama in the USA for a couple of friendlies. Have done it in the past.

Helps that MLS is starting around then, so better chance that Tuiloma, Boxall, Smith & Wynne (if still at Rapids) - should be released by their MLS clubs for at least one AWs game if play nearby stateside. Plus a shorter trip for A League/Nix players than heading to Europe as the A League gets to the business end.

Previous versions

4 versions

Unknown editor edited November 19, 2019 02:35

newzealandpower wrote:

COnst wrote:

Totally agree. That was not a cheap trip. NZ football have very limited funds and to waste them like this.... In most national teams competitors have to prove themselves first, not well, we will take you to the other side of the world, give you a start and see if you can lift your game by 300%. This was a situation where very inexperienced, tame and underdeveloped players were given starting berths. Outcome were predictable. Hello....

For me it demonstrates the massive naivete of the coach, and in NZF for giving him the job.

The problem is, we have to take expensive trips to gain any kind of meaningful game and grow as a team. We don't have the Nations League to compete in (like almost everyone else does) and our ability to get meaningful games in the Islands is limited.

I personally would like to see us target Southeast Asia and the middle East to play friendlies. Somewhere 'in the middle' where players can converge and where we can play teams that, whilst not powerhouses, could still give us a good run for our money.

Either that or join Asia and grow tenfold like Australia did.

With AFC Asian Cup qualifying, and AFC World Cup qualifying - there are very few free windows for AFC sides.

One of the reasons (not the only one) as to why we haven't played the Socceroos for nearly a decade (June 2011).

Though someone like Iran - could become available for friendlies in 2020. They are currently 3rd in their WC qualifying group and at risk of not making the next stage.

There may also be some CONCACAF teams available to play in March 2020 window?? Their Nations League qualifying wraps up in this Nov window, and their Nations League finals series is in June 2020.

With inter confederation playoffs in March 2022 is effectively a 66.67% chance will be a Latino side (CONCACAF or CONMEBOL) so why not grab the chance to play say likes of Costa Rica/Honduras/Guatemala in the USA for a couple of friendlies.

Helps that MLS is starting around then, so better chance that Tuiloma, Boxall, Smith & Wynne (if still at Rapids) - should be released by their MLS clubs for at least one AWs game if play nearby stateside. Plus a shorter trip for A League/Nix players that heading to Europe as A League gets to the business end.

Unknown editor edited November 19, 2019 02:09

newzealandpower wrote:

COnst wrote:

Totally agree. That was not a cheap trip. NZ football have very limited funds and to waste them like this.... In most national teams competitors have to prove themselves first, not well, we will take you to the other side of the world, give you a start and see if you can lift your game by 300%. This was a situation where very inexperienced, tame and underdeveloped players were given starting berths. Outcome were predictable. Hello....

For me it demonstrates the massive naivete of the coach, and in NZF for giving him the job.

The problem is, we have to take expensive trips to gain any kind of meaningful game and grow as a team. We don't have the Nations League to compete in (like almost everyone else does) and our ability to get meaningful games in the Islands is limited.

I personally would like to see us target Southeast Asia and the middle East to play friendlies. Somewhere 'in the middle' where players can converge and where we can play teams that, whilst not powerhouses, could still give us a good run for our money.

Either that or join Asia and grow tenfold like Australia did.

With AFC Asian Cup qualifying, and AFC World Cup qualifying - there are very few free windows for AFC sides.

One of the reasons (not the only one) as to why we haven't played Socceroos for nearly a decade.

Though someone like Iran - could become available for friendlies in 2020. They are currently 3rd in their WC qualifying group and at risk of not making the next stage.

There may also be some CONCACAF teams available to play in March 2020 window?? Their Nations League qualifying wraps up in this Nov window, and their Nations League finals series is in June 2020.

With inter confederation playoffs in March 2022 is effectively a 66.67% chance will be a Latino side (CONCACAF or CONMEBOL) so why not grab the chance to play say likes of Costa Rica/Honduras/Guatemala in the USA for a couple of friendlies.

Helps that MLS is starting around then, so better chance that Tuiloma, Boxall, Smith & Wynne (if still at Rapids) - should be released by their MLS clubs for at least one AWs game if play nearby stateside. Plus a shorter trip for A League/Nix players that heading to Europe as A League gets to the business end.

Unknown editor edited November 19, 2019 02:04

newzealandpower wrote:

COnst wrote:

Totally agree. That was not a cheap trip. NZ football have very limited funds and to waste them like this.... In most national teams competitors have to prove themselves first, not well, we will take you to the other side of the world, give you a start and see if you can lift your game by 300%. This was a situation where very inexperienced, tame and underdeveloped players were given starting berths. Outcome were predictable. Hello....

For me it demonstrates the massive naivete of the coach, and in NZF for giving him the job.

The problem is, we have to take expensive trips to gain any kind of meaningful game and grow as a team. We don't have the Nations League to compete in (like almost everyone else does) and our ability to get meaningful games in the Islands is limited.

I personally would like to see us target Southeast Asia and the middle East to play friendlies. Somewhere 'in the middle' where players can converge and where we can play teams that, whilst not powerhouses, could still give us a good run for our money.

Either that or join Asia and grow tenfold like Australia did.

With AFC Asian Cup qualifying, and AFC World Cup qualifying - there are very few free windows for AFC sides.

One of the reasons (not the only one) as to why we haven't played Socceroos for nearly a decade.

Though someone like Iran - could become available for friendlies in 2020. They are currently 3rd in their WC qualifying group and at risk of not making the next stage.

There may also be some CONCACAF teams available to play in March 2020 window?? Their Nations League qualifying wraps up in this Nov window, and their Nations League finals series is in June 2020.

With inter confederation playoffs in March 2022 is effectively a 66.67% chance will be a Latino side (CONCACAF or CONEMBOL) so why not grab the chance to play likes of Honduras/Guatemala in the USA for a couple of friendlies.

Helps that MLS is starting around then, so better chance that Tuiloma, Boxall, Smith & Wynne (if still at Rapids) - should be released by their MLS clubs for at least one AWs game if play nearby stateside. Plus a shorter trip for A League players that heading to Europe as A League gets to the business end.

Unknown editor edited November 19, 2019 00:06

newzealandpower wrote:

COnst wrote:

Totally agree. That was not a cheap trip. NZ football have very limited funds and to waste them like this.... In most national teams competitors have to prove themselves first, not well, we will take you to the other side of the world, give you a start and see if you can lift your game by 300%. This was a situation where very inexperienced, tame and underdeveloped players were given starting berths. Outcome were predictable. Hello....

For me it demonstrates the massive naivete of the coach, and in NZF for giving him the job.

The problem is, we have to take expensive trips to gain any kind of meaningful game and grow as a team. We don't have the Nations League to compete in (like almost everyone else does) and our ability to get meaningful games in the Islands is limited.

I personally would like to see us target Southeast Asia and the middle East to play friendlies. Somewhere 'in the middle' where players can converge and where we can play teams that, whilst not powerhouses, could still give us a good run for our money.

Either that or join Asia and grow tenfold like Australia did.

With AFC Asian Cup qualifying, and AFC World Cup qualifying - there are very few free windows for AFC sides.

One of the reasons (not the only one) as to why we haven't played Socceroos for nearly a decade.

Though someone like Iran - could become available for friendlies in 2020. They are currently 3rd in their WC qualifying group and at risk of not making the next stage.