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Posted June 18, 2017 21:46 · last edited June 18, 2017 21:52

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't clayton lewis the only non-professional in this squad.  Whereas in 2010 there were at least a couple? Barron, Vicelich, one of the goal keepers (his name I've forgotten).  So you could argue that our players now are playing better levels than they were in 2010.

Yeah but so many of this team are playing in weak leagues, and I include A League in that.

The 2010 team had vastly experienced, composed guys like Nelsen, Elliott and  Vicelich who had all played for years at a high level. 

This a young team that may improve but at the moment the midfield esp is so piss weak. Do agree that Ramon should be made the next coach, at least he will have the NZ football public onside initially 

Out of interest AWs won their 2010 WC OFC qualifiers by winning margins of 1-3 goals pretty much the same as this team has been achieving. So I disagree with the argument we should be thrashing the Island teams. Let's face it they have improved, and we are not Brazil

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Unknown editor edited June 18, 2017 21:52
George Costanza wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't clayton lewis the only non-professional in this squad.  Whereas in 2010 there were at least a couple? Barron, Vicelich, one of the goal keepers (his name I've forgotten).  So you could argue that our players now are playing better levels than they were in 2010.

Yeah but so many of this team are playing in weak leagues, and I include A League in that.

The 2010 team had vastly experienced, composed guys like Nelsen, Elliott and  Vicelich who had all played for years at a high level. 

This a young team that may improve but at the moment the midfield esp is so puss weak. Do agree that Ramon should be made the next coach, at least he will have the NZ football public onside initially 

Out of interest AWs won their 2010 WC OFC qualifiers by winning margins of 1-3 goals pretty much the same as this team has been achieving. So I disagree with the argument we should be thrashing the Island teams. Let's face it they have improved, and we are not Brazil

Unknown editor edited June 18, 2017 21:51
George Costanza wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't clayton lewis the only non-professional in this squad.  Whereas in 2010 there were at least a couple? Barron, Vicelich, one of the goal keepers (his name I've forgotten).  So you could argue that our players now are playing better levels than they were in 2010.

Yeah but so many of this team are playing in weak leagues, and I include A League in that.

The 2010 team had vastly experienced, composed guys like Nelsen, Elliott and  Vicelich who had all played for years at a high level. 

This a young team that may improve but at moment midfield esp is so puss weak. Do agree that Ramon should be made next coach, at least he will NZ football public onside initially 

Out of interest AWs won their 2010 WC OFC qualifiers by winning margins of 1-3 goals pretty same as this team has been achieving. So I disagree with argument we should be thrashing Island teams. Let's face it they have improved, and we are not Brazil