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Posted June 20, 2017 01:47 · last edited June 20, 2017 04:34

james dean wrote:

Hard News wrote:

james dean wrote:

Yes we are a bit weak in central midfield defensively...

But do we need to be?  Isn't that the part of point?  With Themi and Tuiloma we have two what would appear competent options instead we are playing McGlinchey there.  That alone should be a big red warning light.

I think he's trying to get our best footballers on the park together, Themi in midfield would be pretty retrograde, but it's not working so he needs to change something

Agree with this. Unfortunately the best 11 players does not include a quality DM. Themi though a useful find for AWs is old, slow and coming off an injury. Tuiloma has spent a season in French Div 4, Group D. There is 4 goups in that division, so talent must be pretty thinly spread, and I suspect pretty low quality. So to expect Tuiloma to go out and work miracles against likes of Ronnie, Nani & Co??? In fact I wonder if Tuiloma has turned up a bit unfit (by Hudson's standards anyway) being restricted to cameos, and not tracking back for that 2nd Russian goal.

Agree Hudson needs to change something, and he might as well try Themi or Tuiloma as a DM, what other options does he have? But not expecting much if any improvement. This side is unquestionably weaker than side of 2010, though being mostly young will improve. Again Reid is a massive loss, from those stateside friendlies last year.

Comparing performance of AWs to U20's is pointless. Our senior team would kill to have Honduras or Vietnam in their group at Confeds Cup. Plus many of the bigger football nations don't take the age group tourneys that seriously. Their young players get plenty of development at the big European clubs.

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james dean wrote:
Hard News wrote:
james dean wrote:

Yes we are a bit weak in central midfield defensively...

But do we need to be?  Isn't that the part of point?  With Themi and Tuiloma we have two what would appear competent options instead we are playing McGlinchey there.  That alone should be a big red warning light.

I think he's trying to get our best footballers on the park together, Themi in midfield would be pretty retrograde, but it's not working so he needs to change something

Agree with this. Unfortunately the best 11 players does not include a quality DM. Themi though a useful find for AWs is old, slow and coming off an injury. Tuiloma has spent a season in French Div 4, Group D. There is 4 goups in that division, so talent must be pretty thinly spread, and I suspect pretty low quality. So to expect Tuiloma to go out and work miracles against likes of Ronnie, Nani & Co??? In fact I wonder if Tuiloma has turned up a bit unfit (by Hudson's standards anyway) being restricted to cameos, and not tracking back for that 2nd Russian goal.

Agree Hudson needs to change something, and he might as try Themi or Tuiloma as a DM, what other options does he have? But not expecting much if any improvement. This side is unquestionably weaker than side of 2010, though being mostly young will improve. Again Reid is a massive loss, from those stateside friendlies last year.

Comparing performance of AWs to U20's is pointless. Our senior team would kill to have Honduras or Vietnam in their group at Confeds Cup. Plus many of the bigger football nations don't take the age group tourneys that seriously. Their young players get plenty of development at the big European clubs.