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Posted March 23, 2016 23:35 · last edited March 23, 2016 23:37

Napier Phoenix wrote:

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Napier Phoenix wrote:

Yawn

Maybe if you engage in adult discussion instead of just trying to stir the pot you might be a little less bored in the discussions.

That comment is just laughable; an adult could quite easily have taken the original point I raised and enlarged on it. Some people have done totally and others have not done so at all. There are a couple there who have partly engaged intelligently but then gone off track a little and lost the plot so to speak.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that because someone has a contrary view, that they are stirring the pot. If you don't have a view either way on the issue, keep quiet, if you do, then, please engage in intelligent discussion, don't try and score petty points with amusing repartee and personal attacks and expect not to get a reaction. I think some of the regular posters here are absolute wankers and I'm sure there are those that think the same of me, but at least try and contribute to the forum in a meaningful way and if you feel strongly enough about a contrary view to your - then be enough of a man to engage intelligently. Hard for some, maybe impossible, but don't expect me [and others] to blindly accept what you or the club say and do without us putting our views across.

You said that NZF has no relevance to the club, but haven't responded to people pointing out that NZF's incompetence cost us a potentially key signing, let alone just the general issues with the organisation which, as football players and fans in this country, do affect the Fever. You also made a statement about boys playing with matches, implying that there's some possible negative repercussions which could come out of the banner. Could you just elaborate a bit more on why you think the banner was inappropriate, and what you think the negative impact of the banner being associated with the Fever is?

For the record, I agree that some people would see a banner in the Fever zone and think it represents the whole Fever. But in this case I don't see what the problem with it is. For a start, opinion on here is overwhelmingly anti-Martin, so it does represent the general mood.  Which leaves us with why we shouldn't express that in a public way which may be linked to the Fever. 

I'm genuinely interested to know why you think a banner expressing displeasure at the national body after they have made mistake after mistake and been unrepentant about it is such a bad thing. Because obviously you concerns are specific to this banner. You didn't complain about anti-FFA banners earlier in the season.

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ConanTroutman edited March 23, 2016 23:37
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:

Yawn

Maybe if you engage in adult discussion instead of just trying to stir the pot you might be a little less bored in the discussions.

That comment is just laughable; an adult could quite easily have taken the original point I raised and enlarged on it. Some people have done totally and others have not done so at all. There are a couple there who have partly engaged intelligently but then gone off track a little and lost the plot so to speak.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that because someone has a contrary view, that they are stirring the pot. If you don't have a view either way on the issue, keep quiet, if you do, then, please engage in intelligent discussion, don't try and score petty points with amusing repartee and personal attacks and expect not to get a reaction. I think some of the regular posters here are absolute wankers and I'm sure there are those that think the same of me, but at least try and contribute to the forum in a meaningful way and if you feel strongly enough about a contrary view to your - then be enough of a man to engage intelligently. Hard for some, maybe impossible, but don't expect me [and others] to blindly accept what you or the club say and do without us putting our views across.

You said that NZF has no relevance to the club, but haven't responded to people pointing out that NZF's incompetence cost us a potentially key signing, let alone just the general issues with the organisation which, as football players and fans in this country, do affect the Fever. You also made a statement about boys playing with matches, implying that there's some possible negative repercussions which could come out of the banner. Could you just elaborate a bit more on why you think the banner was inappropriate, and what you think the negative impact of the banner being associated with the Fever is?

For the record, I agree that some people would see a banner in the Fever zone and think it represents the whole Fever. But in this case I don't see what the problem with it is. For a start, opinion on here is overwhelmingly anti-Martin, so it does represent the general mood.  Which leaves us with why we shouldn't express that in a public way which may be linked to the Fever. 

I'm genuinely interested to know why you think a banner expressing displeasure at the national body after they have made mistake a after mistake and been unrepentant about it is such a bad thing. Because obviously you concerns are specific to this banner. You didn't complain about anti-FFA banners earlier in the season.