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Posted February 21, 2017 21:35 · last edited February 21, 2017 21:36

Jesus wept, it's tough arguing against people who are arguing against things you think you said. This clearly isn't a gender argument because Jeremy and Enzo - people who know something about top-flight women's football - agree with Abby and every senior player globally who's commented. Especially funny because the YF know-alls are now defending NZF and Andy Martin, an organisation which we all know is not famous for its competence or transparency.

Here's another viewpoint:

Either you commit to putting this team in the best situation to succeed – and right now all we’re talking about is bloody living costs – or you accept that they probably won’t. Considering this is a national team that is regularly there at major tournaments, which beat Brazil last year, which is ranked inside the top 20 in the world, you’d think that here is a wonderful chance to put kiwi footy on the map. The more success they have, the more players that’ll get professional deals, the more sponsors that’ll come on-board, the more prestige that the team will hold with fans and all of that other stuff. Or you could pocket the profits and keep repeating the same old joke about how there’s no money to spare.

(...Martin is) like the guy that gives the last few French fries in the carton to a homeless guy outside Maccas and thinks that he’s out there solving the housing crisis.

We’re talking about the best people in the country at what they do and so many of them are struggling to even make a living in order to compete with other countries. New Zealand’s geographic location doesn’t have anything to do with it, it’s not even solely a feminist argument here it’s a worker’s rights argument as well. NZF’s stance is that by “bridging the gap” between amateurs and professionals in what is an amateur sport in this country, they’re giving the best players more opportunity to in effect audition for pro contracts overseas. Yeah… or you could listen to the players themselves when they say it isn’t working.

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Doloras edited February 21, 2017 21:36

Jesus wept, it's tough arguing against people who are arguing against things you think you said. This clearly isn't a gender argument because Jeremy and Enzo - people who know something about top-flight women's football - agree with Abby and every senior player globally who's commented. Especially funny because the YF know-alls are now defending NZF and Andy Martin, an organisation which we all know is not famous for its competence or transparency.

Here's another viewpoint:

Either you commit to putting this team in the best situation to succeed – and right now all we’re talking about is bloody living costs – or you accept that they probably won’t. Considering this is a national team that is regularly there at major tournaments, which beat Brazil last year, which is ranked inside the top 20 in the world, you’d think that here is a wonderful chance to put kiwi footy on the map. The more success they have, the more players that’ll get professional deals, the more sponsors that’ll come on-board, the more prestige that the team will hold with fans and all of that other stuff. Or you could pocket the profits and keep repeating the same old joke about how there’s no money to spare.[/quote]

[quote](Martin is) like the guy that gives the last few French fries in the carton to a homeless guy outside Maccas and thinks that he’s out there solving the housing crisis.

We’re talking about the best people in the country at what they do and so many of them are struggling to even make a living in order to compete with other countries. New Zealand’s geographic location doesn’t have anything to do with it, it’s not even solely a feminist argument here it’s a worker’s rights argument as well. NZF’s stance is that by “bridging the gap” between amateurs and professionals in what is an amateur sport in this country, they’re giving the best players more opportunity to in effect audition for pro contracts overseas. Yeah… or you could listen to the players themselves when they say it isn’t working.