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Posted February 22, 2017 01:40 · last edited February 22, 2017 01:44

coochiee wrote:

Doloras don't agree with everything you have said, but respect for being the almost sole XX chromosome voice on the forum. That can't always be easy, and the 'traditional' male sports need to embrace their female players & fans not shun them.

Thanks. The really weird thing is when people are yelling at me things like:

Good luck running the women's game in this country without men Doloras.

If you have given a fraction of your time to women's footy that some of the males pointing out the practicalities of this have - then I would be surprised.

All the best with your all men are against women's football argument though.

... when I've been supportively quoting Jeremy Ruane, Enzo Giordani and Nick Robinson, all (I believe) men, and Jeremy at least is very involved in women's football. This is what I mean by people arguing with what people imagine you say. If you are seen as promoting a feminist argument, some people knee-jerk to the belief that you are making a female-chauvinist all-men-are-pigs argument, even when that's the opposite of what you're actually doing. They're arguing with an imaginary ball-busting-bitch.

Anyway, thanks also for taking up the question of the AFLW. Of course it's the first season and there's novelty value. But honestly, from what my Aussie friends tell me, the AFL have a better history of valuing women in their sport than the FFA. The point is that even when the W-League was new you could never pack out a 20,000 arena (even if the tickets were free). Why not?

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Doloras edited February 22, 2017 01:44
coochiee wrote:

Doloras don't agree with everything you have said, but respect for being the almost sole XX chromosome voice on the forum. That can't always be easy, and the 'traditional' male sports need to embrace their female players & fans not shun them.

Thanks. The really weird thing is when people are yelling at me things like:

Good luck running the women's game in this country without men Doloras.

If you have given a fraction of your time to women's footy that some of the males pointing out the practicalities of this have - then I would be surprised.

All the best with your all men are against women's football argument though.

... when I've been supportively quoting Jeremy Ruane, Enzo Giordani and Nick Robinson, all (I believe) men, and Jeremy at least is very involved in women's football. This is what I mean by people arguing with what people imagine you say. If you are seen as promoting a feminist argument, some people knee-jerk to the belief that you are making a female-chauvinist all-men-are-pigs argument, even when that's the opposite of what you're actually doing. They're arguing with an imaginary ball-busting-bitch.

Doloras edited February 22, 2017 01:42
coochiee wrote:

Doloras don't agree with everything you have said, but respect for being the almost sole XX chromosome voice on the forum. That can't always be easy, and the 'traditional' male sports need to embrace their female players & fans not shun them.

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Thanks. The really weird thing is when people are yelling at me things like:

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Good luck running the women's game in this country without men Doloras.

If you have given a fraction of your time to women's footy that some of the males pointing out the practicalities of this have - then I would be surprised.

All the best with your all men are against women's football argument though..

... when I've been supportively quoting Jeremy Ruane, Enzo Giordani and Nick Robinson, all (I believe) men, and Jeremy at least is very involved in women's football. This is what I mean by people arguing with what people imagine you say. If you are seen as promoting a feminist argument, some people knee-jerk to the belief that you are making a female-chauvinist all-men-are-pigs argument, even when that's the opposite of what you're actually doing. (Very similar to the way that if you ever mention Treaty issue, people assume that you hate all whites and want them deported back to England where they came from.) It's a form of intellectual self-protection.