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Posted May 29, 2024 21:08 · last edited May 29, 2024 21:08

MetalLegNZ
Is there a point where NZF say - this is the third time we have had these types of complaints... we need a culture shift.

Ladies, if you do something wrong, if you under perform, if you don't do the hard yards and the coach gives you a dressing down our message is simple as an organisation.

Work harder and do better - earn the praise you want.

I do think there is a double standard in expectations in womens sport right or wrongly in how players you can be treated, but also coaches. I honestly believe that if Kilmakova was a man, she would of been fired by now for her performance as coach.

I agree and at some point the players need to realise that being a pro doesnt just mean you get paid to play but it also means there are expectations from the organisation paying you and the fans that watch. Men's sport in general is so far ahead than the women, for obvious reasons. The big issue is the culture shock for the women. They havent had the time that their male counterparts have had to grow and learn in the professional environment, they've literally been thrown into this hyper pro, high performance demands from some very amature environments. That's not excusing the outcomes but it's clearly a big shock for someone coming from next to know training/demands into a full on "this is your job" kind of environment. 

I think in time it will balance itself out but I also think you've got a massive bunch of athletes (men and women) who have had their egos stoked by loads of people/coaches who come into a pro world expecting the same. When it doesnt happen and they have to work to be the best on the field they dont like it any more.

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MetalLegNZ
Is there a point where NZF say - this is the third time we have had these types of complaints... we need a culture shift.

Ladies, if you do something wrong, if you under perform, if you don't do the hard yards and the coach gives you a dressing down our message is simple as an organisation.

Work harder and do better - earn the praise you want.

I do think there is a double standard in expectations in womens sport right or wrongly in how players you can be treated, but also coaches. I honestly believe that if Kilmakova was a man, she would of been fired by now for her performance as coach.

I agree and at some point the players need to realise that being a pro doesnt just mean you get paid to play but it also means there are expectations from the organisation paying you and the fans that watch. Men's sport in general is so far ahead than the women, for obvious reasons. The big issue is the culture shock for the women. They havent had the time that their male counterparts have had to grow and learn in the professional environment, they've literally been thrown into this hyper pro, high performance demands from some very amature environments. That's not excusing the outcomes but it's clearly a big shock for someone coming from next to know training/demands into a full on "this is your job" kind of environment. 

I think in time it will balamnce itself out but I also think you've got a massive bunch of athletes (men and women) who have had their egos stoked by loads of people/coaches who come into a pro world expecting the same. When it doesnt happen and they have to work to be the best on the field they dont like it any more.