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New Zealand Men's U-17s
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on the front page was a story from the Nelson Weekly about Alex Ridsdale making the New Zealand U-17 squad for World Cup qualifying. I can't find the rest of the squad anywhere though?
New Zealand U-17 training squad
There is still at least one to be added. The Auckland based boys are training four nights a week.
Goalkeepers: Adam McDonald, Hayden Nayler, Scott Armistead, Scott Basalaj, Matthew Gould
Defenders: Luke Adams, Reece Lambert, Harrison Nash, Oliver Wright, Harshae Raniga, Callum McKenzie, Shawn O'Brien, Reill O'Meagher, Bill Tuilioma
Midfielders: Jordan Vale, Cameron Martin, Rhys Jordan, Sam Burfoot, Nathan Buswell, James Debenham, Stephen Carmichael, Warren Pinto, Ahmad Al-Shamsi, James Wypich, Joshua Dixon
Fowards: Tim Payne, Cameron Howieson, Alex Risdale, Rory Turner, Ken Yamamoto
Coaches: Steve Cain, Darren Bazeley
kiwigooner492010-10-28 14:06:262 will get cut obviously.
Three for me, and two for them.
How come Mitch Cooper(Gold Coast United) and Izaak Hart(Happoel Tel Aviv) both born in 1994 are not in that list? Does the national coach know their existence?
Maybe they aren't any good.
Three for me, and two for them.
Or maybe they didn't want to/couldn't move to Auckland to train with the team four days a week. Surely New Zealand coaches would know which players are available to play for us.Luis Garcia2010-10-29 17:26:08
How come Mitch Cooper(Gold Coast United) and Izaak Hart(Happoel Tel Aviv) both born in 1994 are not in that list? Does the national coach know their existence?
Perhaps they turned NZ down. Cooper is eligible for Vanuatu and I think I remember hearing earlier that Hart has Israeli citizenship. Could be that neither want to play for NZ?
Both of them should be sounded out to see if they are keen. Especially Cooper, youngest ever player to get a youth contract with a A - League team.... must have peotential.
It is quite possible the coaches have never hear of these players expecially if they left New Zealand a few years ago, or perhaps have never lived here and a kiwis by decent.
Either way give them a call, the chance to play at a youth world cup in front of numerous scouts would appeal to anyone, especially if they are not in the frame to make Austrlia / Israel u17's
Quote from Steve Cain - The hard part is whittling this group down to 20
because there are a lot of players who are of very similar ability and
we have to look at all those little things that differentiate one player
from another and quite often it�s personality, how they conduct
themselves and they mentality with which they approach things.�
Looking at Steve Cain's last campaign, "What do 95% of all the players chosen have in commin?".
Answer - They were either out injured for a month or two, could not make it to training or were out of the country. Advice - Dont go to every game and every training if you want to be chosen.
Looking at Steve Cain's last campaign, "What do 95% of all the players chosen have in commin?".
Answer - They were either out injured for a month or two, could not make it to training or were out of the country. Advice - Dont go to every game and every training if you want to be chosen.
�They�ll be players who miss out that talent-wise are good enough to be there but it can come down to the balance of positions.�
It can also come down to as a parent how far your c#*K is up his arse or how English you really are?
Quote from Steve Cain - The hard part is whittling this group down to 20
because there are a lot of players who are of very similar ability and
we have to look at all those little things that differentiate one player
from another and quite often it�s personality, how they conduct
themselves and they mentality with which they approach things.�
Looking at Steve Cain's last campaign, "What do 95% of all the players chosen have in commin?".
Answer - They were either out injured for a month or two, could not make it to training or were out of the country. Advice - Dont go to every game and every training if you want to be chosen.
Looking at Steve Cain's last campaign, "What do 95% of all the players chosen have in commin?".
Answer - They were either out injured for a month or two, could not make it to training or were out of the country. Advice - Dont go to every game and every training if you want to be chosen.
�They�ll be players who miss out that talent-wise are good enough to be there but it can come down to the balance of positions.�
It can also come down to as a parent how far your c#*K is up his arse or how English you really are?
Sounds like someone had a negative experience.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
I heard that all Cain is worried about is his CV looking good, and that he can't coach to save himself.
I heard that all Cain is worried about is his CV looking good, and that he can't coach to save himself.
Lol. Will not comment on his coaching ability because of privacy issues but you have to be thankful he is a Mathematics teacher at Kelston boys, not an English teacher because if you read a lot of his articles, the Englishmen spelling leaves a lot to be
about!
I heard that all Cain is worried about is his CV looking good, and that he can't coach to save himself.
Um wouldn't getting good results make his CV look good?
I heard that all Cain is worried about is his CV looking good, and that he can't coach to save himself.
Um wouldn't getting good results make his CV look good?
I'm guessing that must have been a match fixing allegation from gaffa_hb...
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
I heard that all Cain is worried about is his CV looking good, and that he can't coach to save himself.
Lol. Will not comment on his coaching ability because of privacy issues but you have to be thankful he is a Mathematics teacher at Kelston boys, not an English teacher because if you read a lot of his articles, the Englishmen spelling leaves a lot to be
about!Interesting.
You won't comment on his coaching ability because of "privacy issues" but you're happy to comment on the fact that he selects players whose cock he has in his bottom.
Surely cock-in-bottom-ness is more private?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
In addition of Izaak Hart and Mitch Cooper, there is a third young striker who would be eligible to play for NZ U17: Shamus Moffat
The squad for qualifying has been finalised. anyone seen it?
The squad for qualifying has been finalised. anyone seen it?
Yes. Some terrible omissions.
Three for me, and two for them.
No link. I have heard the squad from people i know (people who were overlooked). All i'll say is Cain must be opting for brute force in the midfield over techinical flair.
Three for me, and two for them.
..At least Nelson Suburbs forward Alex Ridsdale made it. So Auckland schools to be stacked again now for next year?
No link. I have heard the squad from people i know (people who were overlooked). All i'll say is Cain must be opting for brute force in the midfield over techinical flair.
This would not be a shock.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Wellington lads Scott Basalaj and James Wypych are in.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Squad list is here:
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=785&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=73da79deb4
Edit: Hmm - on second glance, that looks like the original squad selected after the National Talent Centres, not the pared down qualification squad.
oldbastard2010-12-14 15:05:40
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=785&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=73da79deb4
Edit: Hmm - on second glance, that looks like the original squad selected after the National Talent Centres, not the pared down qualification squad.
oldbastard2010-12-14 15:05:40
That isn't the squad list. That's the training list. A number of names on there have been cut.
Three for me, and two for them.
That isn't the squad list. That's the training list. A number of names on there have been cut.
Yeah - you beat me to it. I edited my original post (above).I really hope we haven't selected muscle over skill.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you cant catch the opposition or do anything with the ball when you finally get it.
Anyone know if Cam Howieson, Alex Risdale or Ken Yamamoto made the cut?
I really hope we haven't selected muscle over skill.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you cant catch the opposition or do anything with the ball when you finally get it.
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Coaches here don't learn. Cain has the footballing knowledge of a monkey and the moral fibre of a twig.
Three for me, and two for them.
I really hope we haven't selected muscle over skill.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you cant catch the opposition or do anything with the ball when you finally get it.
Coaches here don't learn. Cain has the footballing knowledge of a monkey and the moral fibre of a twig.
You don't rate him then...?
I don't rate him as a coach or a person.
Three for me, and two for them.
Anyone know if Cam Howieson, Alex Risdale or Ken Yamamoto made the cut?
Ken is in...
I hav trained with him and hez quite skillfull and quick...
Running Samoan football or similar.
I really hope we haven't selected muscle over skill.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you cant catch the opposition or do anything with the ball when you finally get it.
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Coaches here don't learn. Cain has the footballing knowledge of a monkey and the moral fibre of a twig.
Makes me wonder what you know about football. Steve Cain does know about football,but not sure what you mean about the moral fibre of a twig?
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
I really hope we haven't selected muscle over skill.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you cant catch the opposition or do anything with the ball when you finally get it.
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Coaches here don't learn. Cain has the footballing knowledge of a monkey and the moral fibre of a twig.
Makes me wonder what you know about football. Steve Cain does know about football,but not sure what you mean about the moral fibre of a twig?
I mean he has none.
Three for me, and two for them.
article from NZF website
Attacking balance to New Zealand squad for U-17 qualifiers
New Zealand U-17 coach Steve Cain says he has emphasised attack in selecting a 20 strong squad for January�s FIFA U-17 World Cup qualifying tournament in Auckland.
Steve Cain adresses his squad at training.
December 16, 2010
AUCKLAND � New Zealand U-17 coach Steve Cain says he has emphasised attack in selecting a 20 strong squad for January�s FIFA U-17 World Cup qualifying tournament in Auckland.
The Young All Whites has been pooled with Fiji, American Samoa, Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu in Group A of the 10 team OFC U-17 Championships beginning on January 8, with the winner of the pool facing the top team from Group B comprising Tahiti, Cook Islands, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Tonga.
The winner of the January 19 final will represent Oceania at the 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup held in Mexico in June and July.
With little margin for error, Cain has opted for players who can break down Oceanic teams increasingly well drilled on defence.
�If anything we�ve gone with an overload of attacking players,� says Cain.
�We�ve got some very talented and pacey players in this squad. We hope to go at teams and we know we�ll be up against some pretty solid and well organised opponents and we�re looking to impose our game on them. We at home so we�re going to look to make things happen when we�ve got the ball.�
In the 2009 edition, New Zealand posted 2-0 wins over Tahiti and New Caledonia and a 3-0 victory over Vanuatu 3-0 in qualifying before reaching the knockout stages of the FIFA U-17 World Cup in Nigeria.
Cain says that if qualification is secured the balance of his squad may have a different look to it for the finals.
�If we�d been going to a World Cup we�d need to be more conservative and more balanced between attack and defensive minded players.
�It�s a difficult choice because we are not taken anything for granted � we know how strong some of the teams are going to be but we have to back ourselves especially at home and with the type of players we�ve got.
�We�re trying to be as positive as possible but bearing in mind there are no gimmes in this world anymore.�
The majority of the squad have been with ASB Youth League squads this season and a few have been listed in ASB Premiership squads. Waitakere United�s Tim Payne � who made his debut for Auckland City late last season � has already featured the top league and that tender age of 16.
The New Zealand coaching staff had interest from players with kiwi ties in Australia, USA, Taiwan and Europe although the group chosen are all New Zealand based.
�It�s a reflection of how well we did last time and of course who well the All Whites did in South Africa. The attention we�re getting Worldwide has ramped up quite significantly.�
Cain has identified Vanuatu, who sent an U-15 side to the U-17 qualifiers two years ago, Fiji, and Papua New Guinea as the main threats to New Zealand in the group stage.
New Zealand Squad for 2011 U-17 OFC Championships
Goalkeepers
1-Scott BASALAJ (Team Wellington)
20-Scott ARMISTEAD (Oratia United)
Defenders
2-Harshae RANIGA (Central United)
3-Shawn O�BRIEN (Canterbury United)
4-Reece LAMBERT (Central United)
5-Luke ADAMS (Waitakere United)
16-Bill TUILOMA (Birkenhead United)
Midfielders
7-Kip COLVEY (Asia Pacific FA)
8-Rhys JORDAN (Forrest Hill United)
11-James DEBENHAM (Albany United)
12-Jordan VALE (Waitakere United)
13-Cameron MARTIN (Auckland City)
14-Ryan HOWLETT (Waitakere United)
15-Nathan BUSWELL (East Coast Bays)
17-James WYPYCH (Team Wellington)
18-Calvin OPPERMAN (Central United)
Forwards
6-Alex RIDSDALE (Canterbury United)
9-Tim PAYNE (Waitakere United)
10-Cameron HOWIESON (Asia Pacific FA)
19-Ken YAMAMOTO (Canterbury United)
Management
Stephen CAIN (Head Coach)
Darren BAZELEY (Assistant Coach)
George SMITH (GK Coach)
Dale WEBSTER (Team Manager)
Rob LEE (Physiotherapist)
Andrew FOSKETT (Sports Scientist)
Paul KENNEDY (Team Doctor)
OFC U-17 Championship
January 8-19, 2011
Trusts Stadium, Waitakere
Winner qualifies for FIFA U-17 World Cup Mexico 2011
Group A: New Zealand, American Samoa, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu.
Group B: Tahiti, Cook Islands, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands, Tonga.
New Zealand schedule
January 8 � bye
January 10 v Vanuatu, 4pm
January 12 v Fiji, 1.30pm
January 14 v American Samoa, 1.30pm
January 16 v Papua New Guinea, 3pm
January 19: Final
Attacking balance to New Zealand squad for U-17 qualifiers
New Zealand U-17 coach Steve Cain says he has emphasised attack in selecting a 20 strong squad for January�s FIFA U-17 World Cup qualifying tournament in Auckland.
Steve Cain adresses his squad at training.
December 16, 2010
AUCKLAND � New Zealand U-17 coach Steve Cain says he has emphasised attack in selecting a 20 strong squad for January�s FIFA U-17 World Cup qualifying tournament in Auckland.
The Young All Whites has been pooled with Fiji, American Samoa, Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu in Group A of the 10 team OFC U-17 Championships beginning on January 8, with the winner of the pool facing the top team from Group B comprising Tahiti, Cook Islands, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Tonga.
The winner of the January 19 final will represent Oceania at the 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup held in Mexico in June and July.
With little margin for error, Cain has opted for players who can break down Oceanic teams increasingly well drilled on defence.
�If anything we�ve gone with an overload of attacking players,� says Cain.
�We�ve got some very talented and pacey players in this squad. We hope to go at teams and we know we�ll be up against some pretty solid and well organised opponents and we�re looking to impose our game on them. We at home so we�re going to look to make things happen when we�ve got the ball.�
In the 2009 edition, New Zealand posted 2-0 wins over Tahiti and New Caledonia and a 3-0 victory over Vanuatu 3-0 in qualifying before reaching the knockout stages of the FIFA U-17 World Cup in Nigeria.
Cain says that if qualification is secured the balance of his squad may have a different look to it for the finals.
�If we�d been going to a World Cup we�d need to be more conservative and more balanced between attack and defensive minded players.
�It�s a difficult choice because we are not taken anything for granted � we know how strong some of the teams are going to be but we have to back ourselves especially at home and with the type of players we�ve got.
�We�re trying to be as positive as possible but bearing in mind there are no gimmes in this world anymore.�
The majority of the squad have been with ASB Youth League squads this season and a few have been listed in ASB Premiership squads. Waitakere United�s Tim Payne � who made his debut for Auckland City late last season � has already featured the top league and that tender age of 16.
The New Zealand coaching staff had interest from players with kiwi ties in Australia, USA, Taiwan and Europe although the group chosen are all New Zealand based.
�It�s a reflection of how well we did last time and of course who well the All Whites did in South Africa. The attention we�re getting Worldwide has ramped up quite significantly.�
Cain has identified Vanuatu, who sent an U-15 side to the U-17 qualifiers two years ago, Fiji, and Papua New Guinea as the main threats to New Zealand in the group stage.
New Zealand Squad for 2011 U-17 OFC Championships
Goalkeepers
1-Scott BASALAJ (Team Wellington)
20-Scott ARMISTEAD (Oratia United)
Defenders
2-Harshae RANIGA (Central United)
3-Shawn O�BRIEN (Canterbury United)
4-Reece LAMBERT (Central United)
5-Luke ADAMS (Waitakere United)
16-Bill TUILOMA (Birkenhead United)
Midfielders
7-Kip COLVEY (Asia Pacific FA)
8-Rhys JORDAN (Forrest Hill United)
11-James DEBENHAM (Albany United)
12-Jordan VALE (Waitakere United)
13-Cameron MARTIN (Auckland City)
14-Ryan HOWLETT (Waitakere United)
15-Nathan BUSWELL (East Coast Bays)
17-James WYPYCH (Team Wellington)
18-Calvin OPPERMAN (Central United)
Forwards
6-Alex RIDSDALE (Canterbury United)
9-Tim PAYNE (Waitakere United)
10-Cameron HOWIESON (Asia Pacific FA)
19-Ken YAMAMOTO (Canterbury United)
Management
Stephen CAIN (Head Coach)
Darren BAZELEY (Assistant Coach)
George SMITH (GK Coach)
Dale WEBSTER (Team Manager)
Rob LEE (Physiotherapist)
Andrew FOSKETT (Sports Scientist)
Paul KENNEDY (Team Doctor)
OFC U-17 Championship
January 8-19, 2011
Trusts Stadium, Waitakere
Winner qualifies for FIFA U-17 World Cup Mexico 2011
Group A: New Zealand, American Samoa, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu.
Group B: Tahiti, Cook Islands, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands, Tonga.
New Zealand schedule
January 8 � bye
January 10 v Vanuatu, 4pm
January 12 v Fiji, 1.30pm
January 14 v American Samoa, 1.30pm
January 16 v Papua New Guinea, 3pm
January 19: Final