Under the radar U17/U20
Conor Tracey, 17, GK - Beachlands/QPR (Eng)
Ellis Hare-Reid, 16, GK - IFANZ/Cracks (Spain)
Dylan Morris, 17, Back, Ole/St Kents
Dan Allen, 18, CB, Northern Suburbs/Splits (Cro) Trial
Kieran Pinkney, 17, Back, IFANZ, Cracks (Spain)
Birhanu Taye, 19, Wing, APFA, (Slov) - OK - taking the shark a bit - but needed a right wing and missed the U20 cut. He's known.
Dylan Burns, 18, Mid, West Lake/Nottingham Forest (Eng)
Bertie Fish, 17, HMid, Northern Suburbs/Splits (Trial)
Nando Pijnaker, 17, Wing/Mid, Ole/Western Heights - Dutch passport - uh oh - look out.
Waikato Ball, 18, St Pauls/Phoenix Trial and friendly goal (2014)
Max Mata, 16, Striker, Onehunga Sports/Man U tournaments (Brother is in U17 - Ben)
Patrick Hay, 17, Striker, Auckland Grammer/5000 juggles in front of a croud = dedication to a goal.
Hopefully some of these players can get a look in at age group level?
So which one is your kid?
Looks like Ellis Hare-Reid was in the Burnley Academy in Chch, so he certainly is trying as hard as he can to go pro - he went on a tour of England with a guy from Dunedin called Jack Kirkwood, who plays in the Dunedin club scene for Green Island but is probably 19 now - getting old believe it or not aswell as Perth based Burnley Academy players. No England trial for Kirkwood as far as I can tell.
I guess the question is - did missing out on Rep honours so far, give these players the drive to get overseas = great for their development, or did overseas scouts and coaches see something in these players that the FTC/NTC did not see?
Should we have U17A and U20A teams to increase the player pools - or should we just encourage players not in the squads to get overseas and prove their point to selectors?
I know Hare Reid and Pinkney definitely pursued IFANZ(ex Burnley)/Cracks Academy option after they missed U17 training camp selection. Note, both have UK passports/eligibility.
As previously stated Morris left Ole after not being given a chance to trial by NZF, this cycle, because he was at Ole (a decision only very recently reversed for Ole players). Only time will tell whether leaving Ole environment for Auckland school/club/possible u17 world cup turns out to be a good decision or not.
I think in principle "encouraging players...to get overseas" is cool; but way too reliant on parentage/passport/eligibility to be a reliable foundation for the development of the majority of NZ players.
Where are you getting your intel that Ole players are excluded?
Out of the previous crop of Ole players, Alex Palezevic was in a national team, Riley Kelliher was in a national team (iirc), Corey Brown was in a national team...they were all at Ole at the same time they were in national teams.
I've said it once or twice. This cycle. For U17. It was policy. Commencing April 2014 NTC. Jose new coach. Ole players excluded from all training camps. National coach didn't visit Ole. Only with Hudson quest for players maybe, or change of coach that Ole players considered for U17. Faber doesn't count by the way as he was still doing FTC, not Ole, when he went to an initial camp. I promise you I'm not wearing a tin foil hat ;)
Anyway, cycle nearly over now. Ole lads only had one shot at a training camp. Football politics.