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Posted October 18, 2013 09:30 · last edited October 18, 2013 09:33

chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
chopah wrote:
 

Like I said it's easy to point the finger and make the connection you guys have made - for me it's disapointing that for guys who know so much about football that your not prepared to give everyone involved the benefit of the doubt.


People in general are untrustworthy. Giving people the benefit of the doubt can either leave you looking rather naive or in certain situations even open to exploitation.


No one at NZF deserves the benefit of the doubt given how shambolic the organization is run.

Your last line summed it up perfectly. Would Fred be in UAE if Andre was not there? Someone said he was introduced to the opposition prior to kick off? You don't do that if you are there as a parent...


in regards to being there in an official role, i don't know - i missed the start of the game so again don't know.

On a side note you may expect the director of high performance to be at these events anyway, so possibly he is there on business and would be there even if Andre wasn't.

Was he at the U20s? Did he go to the womens tournaments?


i don't know - was he in that role at that point?  i'm not sure.

Read what i said - i didn't say he was there doing an NZF role, i said i didn't know but i offered the suggestion that people such as yourself may expect the person in his role to be there, i dunno - do you?

\He has been in that role for a while and I am surprised you would not be aware of that. Nearly 18 months (middle of last year?). If he was going to be at them, he would be at all of them. I do not believe he was.

This absolutely stinks of a junket cause his kid was there and if he was smart, he would know this considering his role.

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Jeff Vader edited October 18, 2013 09:33
chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
chopah wrote:
 

Like I said it's easy to point the finger and make the connection you guys have made - for me it's disapointing that for guys who know so much about football that your not prepared to give everyone involved the benefit of the doubt.


People in general are untrustworthy. Giving people the benefit of the doubt can either leave you looking rather naive or in certain situations even open to exploitation.


No one at NZF deserves the benefit of the doubt given how shambolic the organization is run.

Your last line summed it up perfectly. Would Fred be in UAE if Andre was not there? Someone said he was introduced to the opposition prior to kick off? You don't do that if you are there as a parent...


in regards to being there in an official role, i don't know - i missed the start of the game so again don't know.

On a side note you may expect the director of high performance to be at these events anyway, so possibly he is there on business and would be there even if Andre wasn't.

Was he at the U20s? Did he go to the womens tournaments?


i don't know - was he in that role at that point?  i'm not sure.

Read what i said - i didn't say he was there doing an NZF role, i said i didn't know but i offered the suggestion that people such as yourself may expect the person in his role to be there, i dunno - do you?

\ He has been in that role for a while and I am surprised you would not be aware of that. Nearly 18 months. If he was going to be at them, he would be at all of them. I do not believe he was.

This absolutely stinks of a junket cause his kid was there and if he was smart, he would know this considering his role.