Decent Squad!
Saw that Waitemata Keeper play, He is very good. Be a good asset for us.
No Dylan Burns? or Connor Probert?
I know some professionals are missing for obvious reasons, but apart from Henry Cameron, who else could make the cut for U-20s?
New Zealand Men's U-20s
What pros are missing again? Probert in the US
6 players from Western Springs... pretty much the backline. I hope they have been having a good season!
Teams always change after qualifying, so it will be interesting how many lose their spots to Cameron etc if we make the finals.
Decent Squad!
Saw that Waitemata Keeper play, He is very good. Be a good asset for us.
No Dylan Burns? or Connor Probert?
I know some professionals are missing for obvious reasons, but apart from Henry Cameron, who else could make the cut for U-20s?
Guess they both should of gone to Western Springs......
As long as S Liddicott is in the team I'm happy
Sorted. In. You will be a happy man.
Glad the team is out. Great to pick over the bones. Forumsters are correct with the make up of the team. It will probably change, as the under 17s did last year after they qualified.
A couple of talking points as others have mentioned. Probert in the states but other players seem to be coming back?
Dylan Burns - would have been nice to finally see him play. The experts must know he's not up to it?
No room for Billingsley?
Only 5 midfielders - not going to be any injuries or form slumps then. Whewww.
can someone on here tell me if any of those defenders are actually def midfielders in disguise. Tuiloma stood out at the last tournament with his pure physicality and calmness. I just don't see any real athletic strong players in this team. None of the young Nix players fit that bill.
Incidentally this seems to be an issue across most men's teams - we are producing loads of backs, wingers but few athletic ball winners who can dominate the midfield and distribute. Give me a Pogba any day!
Would love to be wrong on this one with this side as can see a few creative players in there.
My understanding as part of the criteria for selection is that the players must be playing ASB Premiership weekly..minimum as producing performances.
Where are the Western Springs boys playing their Summer footballs?
Billingsly is an interesting ommission. Although personally, I did not rate him that highly, but for been a fast mans Peter Crouch I didn't see anything technically or positionally brilliant about him.
In 2013, I went to Napier with Reese Cox for Glenfield Rovers, and our coach Michael Mayne played Reese Cox in a defensive midfield role. He can play there.
As long as S Liddicott is in the team I'm happy
Only 5 midfielders - not going to be any injuries or form slumps then. Whewww.
Alignment - don't need any midfielders if these guys are gonna play like the senior side. Only midfield requirement is a strong neck.
Billingsly is an interesting ommission. Although personally, I did not rate him that highly, but for been a fast mans Peter Crouch I didn't see anything technically or positionally brilliant about him.
Yes. He didn't have a brilliant U20 world cup last year - maybe an assist and 1 goal? But he does have experience at U20 level and that must count for something in a Youth environment?
Great to see Myer Bevan getting a run - be interesting to see if he can unlock other countries defenses like he has done at the Nike Academy.
Billingsly is an interesting ommission. Although personally, I did not rate him that highly, but for been a fast mans Peter Crouch I didn't see anything technically or positionally brilliant about him.
Yes. He didn't have a brilliant U20 world cup last year - maybe an assist and 1 goal? But he does have experience at U20 level and that must count for something in a Youth environment?
Great to see Myer Bevan getting a run - be interesting to see if he can unlock other countries defenses like he has done at the Nike Academy.
I thought Billingsley had a pretty good WC last year - he got slagged on the YF forum a lot, but to me he was quite quick, direct, and caused the defenders some problems. Our build up play was fairly slow which doesn't help a player of those qualities.
What pros are missing again? Probert in the US
No Luca Scimia - be interesting to know if he felt it wasn't worth his time, or NZF said "we'll get you onboard when we qualify".....or if no contact has been made
Joseph Champness at Brisbane Roar Youth
Tom Walters, but he is playing in Gibraltar.....would Gibraltar be equivalent of NZFC? Possibly?
and that kid at West Ham.....Tiller?
Billingsly is an interesting ommission. Although personally, I did not rate him that highly, but for been a fast mans Peter Crouch I didn't see anything technically or positionally brilliant about him.
Yes. He didn't have a brilliant U20 world cup last year - maybe an assist and 1 goal? But he does have experience at U20 level and that must count for something in a Youth environment?
Great to see Myer Bevan getting a run - be interesting to see if he can unlock other countries defenses like he has done at the Nike Academy.
A goal and an assist is a good return for a Kiwi striker in a youth world cup! We've had international strikers go years without a goal or an assist!
6 players from Western Springs... pretty much the backline. I hope they have been having a good season!
Teams always change after qualifying, so it will be interesting how many lose their spots to Cameron etc if we make the finals.
Flirting with relegation. Goal diff of minus 14. Some backline.
Couple of boys still at school so I assume they'll be there next cycle too.
Any eligibility issues in That group? Liddicote born in Brunei assuming kiwi parents. Cox born in SA not sure about parents #WynneGate could become #CoxGate would be gold for headlines.
Any eligibility issues in That group? Liddicote born in Brunei assuming kiwi parents. Cox born in SA not sure about parents #WynneGate could become #CoxGate would be gold for headlines.
How do you guys reckon we'll fair with this squad? All wins? A couple of draws/games won on penalties?
Also I'm no expert on the U20s, so are there any big names/prospects that have been left out that quite a few of us might not be aware of/forgotten?
I would love to see Hay get questioned about his selections with the names of missing players etc... especially about whether or not favourtism is being shown, especially if Springs is near relegation and the teams above him are playing young eligable players as well.
Nothing will come of it, but I do wish we challenged selections more in NZ to help keep coaches honest.
How do you guys reckon we'll fair with this squad? All wins? A couple of draws/games won on penalties? Also I'm no expert on the U20s, so are there any big names/prospects that have been left out that quite a few of us might not be aware of/forgotten
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A number of the starters who played all the 17s games in Chile have been omitted, with a number of the players who came on as reserves or played smaller parts included, These include Sapreet Singh and Joe Bell and Luke Johnson. Those who played most games include Liam Williams and Ben Mata who played at the back, and Dane Schnell who played the defensive midfield role .Both backup keepers to Michael Woud chose not to be involved in the 20s build up.
Other than that, some of the players overseas at American Universities who were in the training squad prior to leaving, such as Oscar Ramsay and Connor Probert are omitted too as is Jake Porter from Onehunga and of course Dylan Burns.
Should be able to make the final, and two teams qualify so easier this time round perhaps?
I would love to see Hay get questioned about his selections with the names of missing players etc... especially about whether or not favourtism is being shown, especially if Springs is near relegation and the teams above him are playing young eligable players as well.
Nothing will come of it, but I do wish we challenged selections more in NZ to help keep coaches honest.
Should be directing the questions to Bazeley, who is the coach. Hay does the 17s
I would love to see Hay get questioned about his selections with the names of missing players etc... especially about whether or not favourtism is being shown, especially if Springs is near relegation and the teams above him are playing young eligable players as well.
Nothing will come of it, but I do wish we challenged selections more in NZ to help keep coaches honest.
Should be directing the questions to Bazeley, who is the coach. Hay does the 17s
I'm saying lol
Why no Ben Mata?
Would like to know where those selected come from - are any of the Auckland-based players from around the country, are any of those at the Phoenix (Joe Bell is ex-Christchurch)?
Bell - Chch
McGarry - Dunedin then Christchurch
Jack-Henry Sinclair - Palmy then Auckland
Singh - Auckland
Rogerson - Hamilton
Nando Pijnaker - Rotorua
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Luke Johnson came to Auckland from Tauranga to make the 17s
Bell - Chch
McGarry - Dunedin then Christchurch
Jack-Henry Sinclair - Palmy then Auckland
Singh - Auckland
Rogerson - Hamilton
Nando Pijnaker - Rotorua
Liddicioat is Palmy (or Manawatu somewhere at least) then Christchurch too
Decent enough.
Bell - Chch
McGarry - Dunedin then Christchurch
Jack-Henry Sinclair - Palmy then Auckland
Singh - Auckland
Rogerson - Hamilton
Nando Pijnaker - Rotorua
Liddicioat is Palmy (or Manawatu somewhere at least) then Christchurch too
Decent enough.
Went to Palmerston North Boys High.
Darren Bazeley on the squad selected for Qualifying.
From Piney:
One thing I find interesting is, anyone remember the training camp that was held before the Nations Cup??
I seem to remember majority were U-20 and apparently some were overseas.
Players who I seem to remember people were talking about were U-20 (Correct me if I am wrong):
Jack Anderson - ?
Joe Bell - Wellington Phoenix
Myer Bevan - Nike Academy
Jackson Brady -?
Cam Brown - Waitemata
Reese Cox - Western Springs
George Debenham - Western Springs
Moses Dyer - Onehung Sports
Andres Greensmith - ?
Patrick Izzet - Vancouver Whitecaps? - Not sure
Clayon Lewis - Onehunga Sports
Cheuxyan Makau - ?
Daivd Masters - Glenfield Rovers/Manurewa - He trains with rovers on Tuesday and trains with Manurewa on thursday. Plays for Manurewa on weekend (Like a loan deal)
Jake Porter - ?
Connor Probert - Not sure if true but read somewhere he is in USA
Oscar Ramsey - Western Springs
Logan Rogerson - Phoenix
Charlie Thomas - Western Springs
Connor Tracey - Heard he was at QPR then he came back
Mitch Watt - Not sure where he is, but don't think he is overseas
Who out of this players, currently play overseas? They might be a few who missed out just like Henry Cameron (For obvious reasons).
Jackson Brady is at Coastal Spirit
Could make Willy's Dragons side.
Cheauxyan Makau-McPhee is from/in Gissy, and I think Jake Porter is at Waitakere?
Cheauxyan Makau-McPhee is from/in Gissy, and I think Jake Porter is at Waitakere?
Onehunga Sports
Is Cheauxyn Makau not playing for Springs?
can someone on here tell me if any of those defenders are actually def midfielders in disguise. Tuiloma stood out at the last tournament with his pure physicality and calmness. I just don't see any real athletic strong players in this team. None of the young Nix players fit that bill.
Incidentally this seems to be an issue across most men's teams - we are producing loads of backs, wingers but few athletic ball winners who can dominate the midfield and distribute. Give me a Pogba any day!
Would love to be wrong on this one with this side as can see a few creative players in there.
Nando can play left mid. Saw him play half a game there for wests vs Napier city and thought he provided really good width and was able to cross some decent balls into the box. So a midfield and left back option.
Watched Springs lose to bottom ranked Melville tonight . Hope the 5 players who are going off with the 20s were scared of getting injured and did not play true to form, because Darren Bazley watching would have been worried seeing how 1/3 of his outfield squad performed.
I wondered why he left Onehunga v FHM early, I think he might have missed Moses' superb match-winner that sealed it for Sports after they'd let a 3-1 lead slip and looked to heading for a 3-3 draw.
Watched Springs lose to bottom ranked Melville tonight . Hope the 5 players who are going off with the 20s were scared of getting injured and did not play true to form, because Darren Bazley watching would have been worried seeing how 1/3 of his outfield squad performed.
The Springs players may be work horses for the Island conditions. Then once U20s grab a qualifying spot. The personel may change? All is not lost. If Bazley thinks he has picked the wrong players. He still has time to bring in others, should we qualify.
I watched the FHM VS ONEHUNGA yesterday and there are some good young players at both clubs! It was a good watch, Moses showed why he is a well known player!