New Zealand U-23s - Quali Whites
There is a shitload of football on Sky Sport on Thursday and Friday early morning. Nothing else has started, so Sky are showing all the games live by the looks of it. Going to be awesome.
I too was initially fooled into thinking Sky were going to turn a new leaf and give exemplary coverage - until I read that only five of the eight Olympic channels are available to standard domestic subscribers like myself (you have to have My Sky with an HD access ticket and Sky Sport subscription to access channels 9-11) and looked at the schedule after the first couple of days.
How do you live without MySky and HD coverage?
Also, how do you think Sky are able to pay to broadcast so many channels? Quit moaning and stump up.
(yes I'm a Sky shareholder).
Sky can eat my sack, they'll never get more than the absolute minimum from me for their shotty services.
Free to air on Prime ,if you didn't know.
I just found this one now works http://www.justin.tv/olympicgames2012football#/w/3497373568
o keefe misses a punch to leave belarus player free at the back post
half time 0-1 to belarus
Cruel.
NZ have played some of the best football I've seen a national team play.
Edit: An NZ national team that is!
Cruel.
NZ have played some of the best football I've seen a national team play.
Edit: An NZ national team that is!
when is this ref gonna show one of these Belarussians a card?
Belarus are out-New Zealanding us at the moment...
We needed some points there if we are to get through. Brazil just edged out Egypt 3-2 so both these teams will be tough to get points off.
Adam Thomas coughing up the ball before we conceded the corner was bad.
Michael O'Keefe's flapping at the ball was horrible.
Hard to know exactly who to blame for not marking Baga.
And kids, this is NOT how you perform the role of covering your post at a corner...
Decent. Just making my way home. Respectable but only gonna get tougher
First half as good as any NZ side has played. Feel for the keeper- one mistake and it costs us the game. Wood should have scored with the header and I thought he had a poor game. If we can play like we did in the 1st half then NZ football will be a treat to watch.
First half as good as any NZ side has played. Feel for the keeper- one mistake and it costs us the game. Wood should have scored with the header and I thought he had a poor game. If we can play like we did in the 1st half then NZ football will be a treat to watch.
Disappointing result but promising signs for the future. I've been critical of WeeMac for the AWs but in todays game he was impressive, the combo of him and Payne in the holding midfield looked good although Belarus didn't do much to test them defensively. Thomas could be a long term option for that troublesome RB position too.
Also, Japan beating Spain puts our result against them in perspective! Hopefully our boys stay confident going in to the game against Egypt
Gutted! Some great build up play throughout but Smeltz and Wood didn't do the business, did they? How many shots did their GK stop? As for the goal i feel for MOK, but I partly blame Thomas - with less than a minute to play to HT he should not have lost the ball so easily on the left.
Is anyone else finding the commentary slightly behind the play (both in this and the women's game yesterday.)
Yes, it's very annoying at times. I did notice today though that the picture was skipping far less often than it was yesterday, so hopefully if they can fix an issue like that they'll be able to fix the audio lag as well.
Van Hattum on Radio described ""O'Keffes massive error gifted the goal. have not seen it but should he be blamed or should someone be marking players better with these new swerve balls.
Good Guy Van Hattum. Hoggs defending was terrible for the goal. We can't blame OKeeffe for losing though, we had plenty of oppourtunitys to score, and he made some cracking saves to keep it at 1-0.
Is anyone else finding the commentary slightly behind the play (both in this and the women's game yesterday.)
It is bloody annoying.
Dewhurst must be over there as on the doco's that are running on the Olympic channels at the moment he was in London interviewing some kiwi opera singer.
I tweeted @skysportnz twice about it, but they have yet to reply, but i did notice they sent tweets about other things, so were either ignorning my question or needing to find out some info (i suspect the former).
I assume we wont see the same thing for hockey, cycling etc...
Good Guy Van Hattum. Hoggs defending was terrible for the goal. We can't blame OKeeffe for losing though, we had plenty of oppourtunitys to score, and he made some cracking saves to keep it at 1-0.
The way I see It
Hogg was on the post, doing his job by making the goal smaller. Always stay on the line and don`t get drawn out.
O`Keeffe moved forward away from his marker, attempted to punch the ball out and missed.
His marker was left free for a simple nod in.
O`Keeffe has to take full blame IMO
Good Guy Van Hattum. Hoggs defending was terrible for the goal. We can't blame OKeeffe for losing though, we had plenty of oppourtunitys to score, and he made some cracking saves to keep it at 1-0.
The way I see It
Hogg was on the post, doing his job by making the goal smaller. Always stay on the line and don`t get drawn out.
O`Keeffe moved forward away from his marker, attempted to punch the ball out and missed.
His marker was left free for a simple nod in.
O`Keeffe has to take full blame IMO
But how many chances did our PROFFESSIONAL players blast over the top when in position to score.
Good Guy Van Hattum. Hoggs defending was terrible for the goal. We can't blame OKeeffe for losing though, we had plenty of oppourtunitys to score, and he made some cracking saves to keep it at 1-0.
The way I see It
Hogg was on the post, doing his job by making the goal smaller. Always stay on the line and don`t get drawn out.
O`Keeffe moved forward away from his marker, attempted to punch the ball out and missed.
His marker was left free for a simple nod in.
O`Keeffe has to take full blame IMO
Exactly.Keeper misjudged. Unlucky, only mistake he made but very costly.
Only really watched the first half because I had to go to work, but I thought that at times it was some of the best football a NZ side has played in a while! Some of the ball movement was quick and along the deck which Belarus couldn't handle. After missing all of the build up games and reading about how underdone we were I was glad to see it. It was good to see a NZ team go out and not be so direct. Obviously the goal was a shocker but ultimately I thought it was the poor finsihing/final ball that cost us the most.
What's the deal with Rojas? Is he injured?
Also, didn't think the ref was particularly good. At one stage I think the nuetral crowd were booing him.
No doubt it was definately O'Keeffe's fault. And he knows it. Probably his only mistake of the game, and unfortunately that the life of a keeper.
As T-X says, Hogg's effort at the back post was pretty strange (although I thought he a pretty good game excluding a coupple of shank crosses). And there definately should have been marker the scorer. Not sure who it should have been.
Good to see Payne start in midfield. Think we are a lot better with him there rather than McGeorge or Feneridis. Macro also had one of his best games for a long long time.
sucks to be a telstraclear cable customer getting sky through them - no sweet mysky deals here :(
You're just a small town in Russia..
If only Smeltz and Wood had their finishing boots on.... Promising stuff however, but that's probably our chances of qualifying gone. Looking good for the future though!
Commie commie commie chameleon
Agree the performance in the first half was really good, though disappointed they seemed to lose their way in the second which to be honest Belarus had the better of.
But at the end of the day, from the several games I've seen over the last 24 hours, Belarus are one of the weaker teams in the tournie and we hardly troubled their keeper. (By the way, this Belarus team - and the other three European qualifiers - are disadvantaged because they've had to scrape together teams different to their teams that qualified, for the reason that their qualifying tournie, the Euro "u-21" Finals - which allowed players up to age 23, was 13 months ago and many players are now too old to meet the u-23 age criteria. Spain are struggling for this reason too.)
Unfortunately, it's probably going to be all downhill from here with Egypt and Brazil tougher prospects than Belarus...both have been in camp for months.
A big positive was the performances of guys like Rojas and Hogg (I thought they were both much-improved from the build-up games) who are unknown in UK/Europe and may attract the eye of scouts if they continue to do well...McGlinchey too was impressive in the first half, though he seemed to fade in the second, and is already attracting interest from the Scottish media as the only Scotsman in the men's tournie...
Interesting footnote: this piece of information only seemed to be in the Chch "Press" (it was edited out of the version of last Friday's story by Fred Woodcock on the Stuff website - and I guess in the Dominion-Post) which often seems to print fuller versions of stories from the Dom-Post than that paper does itself...
The missing paragraph we got to read in Christchurch-only in a story about the men's and women's Olympic football sides: "During the Olympic cycle, NZF received $1.57 million from High Performance Sport New Zealand. About a third of that went towards the All Whites' World Cup campaign, but in terms of the Olympics campaign, there has been about a two-thirds, one-third split in favour of the women over the men's under-23 team."
So twice as much was spent on the Football Ferns as the Oly Whites in their preparation for the Olympics. A conscious decision by NZ Football (or do High Perf Sport NZ dictate where the money goes?). I don't begrudge the Ferns any money. But to me IT SUCKS BIGTIME, that they couldn't be arsed spending sufficient money on the Oly Whites preparation. Despite a four month gap between the OFC qualifiers and the Olympics and only half the squad comprising players from the qualifiers, the Oly Whites were only brought into camp two weeks before the tournie and given only three friendlies. Nearly the entire squad were available from the end of the OFC Nations Cup on June 10. In comparison, the Ferns entered camp about June 14, forty days before the Olympics, and played six friendlies.
I feel we the supporters and the players (an u-23 group with undoubted potential) have been let down badly by the lack of effort put into preparing the Oly Whites. With a similar level of preparation to the Football Ferns, I believe we would have beaten Belarus. And the u-23 players would have been exposed to much more chance to develop and gain pro contracts...
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I didn't see any of the game or any highlights. It sounds like we played ok and were unlucky. My only question is why do the match statistics not reflect this "good" performance by NZ. Have u guys and NZ media got your kiwi hats on when rating NZs performance against Belarus?
i.e. Shots Belarus 24 vs 7 NZ.
corners Belarus 11 vs 2 Nz
possession belarus 67% vs 33% NZ
playing time with the ball Belarus 50 vs 24mins NZ.
sounds pretty one sided to me?
I didn't see any of the game or any highlights. It sounds like we played ok and were unlucky. My only question is why do the match statistics not reflect this "good" performance by NZ. Have u guys and NZ media got your kiwi hats on when rating NZs performance against Belarus?
i.e. Shots Belarus 24 vs 7 NZ.
corners Belarus 11 vs 2 Nz
possession belarus 67% vs 33% NZ
playing time with the ball Belarus 50 vs 24mins NZ.
sounds pretty one sided to me?
Because statistics are crap in football. Thats why.
If you want proof of that, you just gave it.
I too was initially fooled into thinking Sky were going to turn a new leaf and give exemplary coverage - until I read that only five of the eight Olympic channels are available to standard domestic subscribers like myself (you have to have My Sky with an HD access ticket and Sky Sport subscription to access channels 9-11) and looked at the schedule after the first couple of days.
How do you live without MySky and HD coverage?
Also, how do you think Sky are able to pay to broadcast so many channels? Quit moaning and stump up.
(yes I'm a Sky shareholder).
I live quite happily and more cheaply with a standard Sky subscription and a 42" plasma TV I bought for $250 from someone in a hurry to leave Chch after the quakes, plus a 250GB hard drive DVD recorder. I'm quite happy with my picture quality and don't see how the large extra expense of My Sky HDi is at all warrented.
It's $99 installation, then $25/ month ($15 My Sky rental + $10 HD access ticket) = $300/ year , $3100 over ten years!
(and that's on top of the $59 a month I pay for Sky's basic package and Sport through Vodafone!)
You can just buy a second-hand DVD recorder with hard drive for $200 on Trade Me for recording stuff and pay the basic Sky fees instead.
At least then you also own the DVD recorder (and have the major bonus you can record stuff onto DVD to share with friends & family or keep for future viewing.)
With My Sky, the machine always belongs to Sky and has no re-sale value...
By the way, if you look at page 5 of the July SkyWatch mag, you'll notice Sky aren't actually adding new channels to broadcast the Olympics but are shifting around their existing ones e.g. ch.112 disappears temporarily and the Sky Box Office channels are used for Olympic sport as SBO is temporarily shifted elsewhere.
BBC in Britain have 24 free to air dedicated Olympic channels (all 24 also available free in HD) available free on Freesat and for all Sky and Virgin subscribers with no need to pay for a sports package - now that's real coverage!
I didn't see any of the game or any highlights. It sounds like we played ok and were unlucky. My only question is why do the match statistics not reflect this "good" performance by NZ. Have u guys and NZ media got your kiwi hats on when rating NZs performance against Belarus?
To answer your question, why not just watch a full replay of the game via the BBC iPlayer (as explained in my post immediately before your one). You can access it anywhere in the world if you do as I explain below:
There are live TV and radio broadcasts of some NZ football team games on BBC iPlayer e.g. NZ v Belarus was on live and a full replay is available, plus many other games from all groups, men's and women's.
How to acess in NZ or any country:
1. Download this free software which temporarily assigns you a genuine UK IP address and turn it on when wanting to watch video on BBC iPlayer or BBC Sport etc. or listen to BBC radio coverage. Be sure to turn it off when not accessing UK sites. Ads can be clicked away.
http://download.cnet.com/Expat-Shield/3000-2092_4-75211377.html
2. BBC iPlayer: football video, some live, incl. full replay of GB v Brazil Olympic last week, NZ v Belarus, GB v Football Ferns etc. Check schedule for upcoming live games:
I didn't see any of the game or any highlights. It sounds like we played ok and were unlucky. My only question is why do the match statistics not reflect this "good" performance by NZ. Have u guys and NZ media got your kiwi hats on when rating NZs performance against Belarus?
i.e. Shots Belarus 24 vs 7 NZ.
corners Belarus 11 vs 2 Nz
possession belarus 67% vs 33% NZ
playing time with the ball Belarus 50 vs 24mins NZ.
sounds pretty one sided to me?
I was at the game - first 40 minutes they barely had a touch. Unfotunately final balls went astray and a couple of chances that fell to wood smeltz probably would have buried - clearly that's the next thing to work on but if we play like that chances will come. It really was very very impressive. Need to be a bit more clinical on the counter. We flagged in the second spell where belarus were definitely the better team and soaked up the pressure well but overall it was really good. My only criticism was our delivery from wide areas was poor, both fullbacks got forward very well but really squandered what was some pretty decent possession high up the picth.
I find those stats to be a complete misrepresentation of the match