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Posted July 14, 2015 06:42 · last edited July 14, 2015 06:45

Bestie wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Bestie wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

The intent of the rules are quite clear.

Every country in the world is going to have different citizenship laws (some relatively tough like ours, some very lax like Saint Kits and Nevis and for that matter Vanuatu).

So to make sure there is no dodgy stuff going on  FIFA correctly made some very clear, very simple, very easy, yes and no answers if you possessed two passports

1: Born there - no

2: Parents born there - no

3: Grandparents born there - no

4: lived there for 5 years since the age of 18  (bitch of a rule for age group players, but a rules a rule - NO, NO, NO

What is so difficult for NZ football to figure out?

lol possibly intent according to Auckland Nix perspective. Plenty of comment here sees a bigger pic.

Which is why FIFA offer exemptions IF YOU ASK for them and it's obvious you aren't just gaming the system. Sorry to get all YouTube comments section shouty caps lock but that's the key point. NZF knew they could seek clarification/exemption but chose not to because they were afraid it wouldn't be granted. They can't argue that they genuinely thought they were in the right when they've said they didn't want to ask in case they were wrong. Any doubt should have meant they asked

I would say it's 'a point'. Don't know if I'ld go so far as to say 'the key point'. Again plenty comment both here and now in media that realises that this is more messy than clear cut.       

signed 'AVOIDED CAPS'   

Sorry, but it just feels like the fact that NZF have admitted they didn't seek an exemption because they thought it might not be granted is being overlooked. How can you try to claim you are certain of his eligibility on one hand and then say that you didn't ask because you were afraid you were wrong on the other? If they were certain he was fine they would have just filed the paperwork confident that it would be rubber stamped. All this talk about FIFA's intent in the wording is also missing the point that FIFA have established a precedent by getting 30 or 40 of these exemption applications a year. I think NZF have decided its better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission

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ConanTroutman edited July 14, 2015 06:45
Bestie wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Bestie wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

The intent of the rules are quite clear.

Every country in the world is going to have different citizenship laws (some relatively tough like ours, some very lax like Saint Kits and Nevis and for that matter Vanuatu).

So to make sure there is no dodgy stuff going on  FIFA correctly made some very clear, very simple, very easy, yes and no answers if you possessed two passports

1: Born there - no

2: Parents born there - no

3: Grandparents born there - no

4: lived there for 5 years since the age of 18  (bitch of a rule for age group players, but a rules a rule - NO, NO, NO

What is so difficult for NZ football to figure out?

lol possibly intent according to Auckland Nix perspective. Plenty of comment here sees a bigger pic.

Which is why FIFA offer exemptions IF YOU ASK for them and it's obvious you aren't just gaming the system. Sorry to get all YouTube comments section shouty caps lock but that's the key point. NZF knew they could seek clarification/exemption but chose not to because they were afraid it wouldn't be granted. They can't argue that they genuinely thought they were in the right when they've said they didn't want to ask in case they were wrong. Any doubt should have meant they asked

I would say it's 'a point'. Don't know if I'ld go so far as to say 'the key point'. Again plenty comment both here and now in media that realises that this is more messy than clear cut.       

signed 'AVOIDED CAPS'   

Sorry, but it just feels like the fact that NZF have admitted they didn't seek an exemption because they thought it might not be granted is being overlooked. How can you try to claim you are certain of his eligibility on one hand and then say that you didn't ask because you were afraid you were wrong on the other? If they were certain he was fine they would have just filed the paperwork confident that it would be rubber stamped. All this talk about FIFA's intent in the wording is also missing the point that FIFA have established a precedent by getting 30 or 40 of these exemption applications a year. I