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Posted July 15, 2015 05:22 · last edited July 15, 2015 06:03

el grapadura wrote:

LionLegs wrote:

Edit: Sorry all this is a formatting nightmare. Just trying to tidy it up a bit.

The NZF appeal is on two fronts:

1) Wynne's eligibility under FIFA statutes

2) The process of the Vanuatu protest

Most of the discussion on here is about #1. I want to turn back to #2 for a moment.

Art 3, par 2:

The confederations may propose to FIFA that existing tournaments serve as
the preliminary competitions for the Tournaments. In case FIFA accepts such
a proposal, the respective confederations shall be solely responsible for the
organisation and delivery of such preliminary tournaments.

Art 16, par 3:

During the preliminary competitions teams must:

accept that all the administrative, disciplinary and refereeing matters
relating to the preliminary competitions shall be dealt with by FIFA or,
if applicable as per art. 3, par. 2 above, the respective confederation in
compliance with the respective regulations;

The problem for us is 16.3 (a) - the participating associations undertake to observe these Regulations (i.e. FIFA's Rio 2016 regulations, which in themselves stipulate that national associations have to observe FIFA statutes when it comes to player eligibility). The 'respective confederation regulations', if applicable, are in addition to FIFA's regulations.

I still think our best chance is challenging the protest process undertaken by OFC, as it may contravene 10.3 of Rio 2016 regulations (although I haven't got my round to all of the timeline, so not all that sure of this). But even then I'm not sure how far that could take us.

Alright that makes sense. So if the Rio 2016 regulations are 100% compulsory (and cannot be overrode by the Pacific Games or OFC regulations) then there are a couple of simple questions to be asked: Was the list of players from each country sent to the FIFA general secretariat in Zurich? Was there a FIFA Match Commissioner inspecting passports on the eve of this match? Because if not, the entire tournament is legally null and void as an Olympic qualifier, right? Or is that a fairly extreme interpretation?   

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LionLegs edited July 15, 2015 06:03
el grapadura wrote:
LionLegs wrote:

Edit: Sorry all this is a formatting nightmare. Just trying to tidy it up a bit.

The NZF appeal is on two fronts:

1) Wynne's eligibility under FIFA statutes

2) The process of the Vanuatu protest

Most of the discussion on here is about #1. I want to turn back to #2 for a moment.

Art 3, par 2:

The confederations may propose to FIFA that existing tournaments serve as
the preliminary competitions for the Tournaments. In case FIFA accepts such
a proposal, the respective confederations shall be solely responsible for the
organisation and delivery of such preliminary tournaments.

Art 16, par 3:

During the preliminary competitions teams must:

accept that all the administrative, disciplinary and refereeing matters
relating to the preliminary competitions shall be dealt with by FIFA or,
if applicable as per art. 3, par. 2 above, the respective confederation in
compliance with the respective regulations;

The problem for us is 16.3 (a) - the participating associations undertake to observe these Regulations (i.e. FIFA's Rio 2016 regulations, which in themselves stipulate that national associations have to observe FIFA statutes when it comes to player eligibility). The 'respective confederation regulations', if applicable, are in addition to FIFA's regulations.

I still think our best chance is challenging the protest process undertaken by OFC, as it may contravene 10.3 of Rio 2016 regulations (although I haven't got my round to all of the timeline, so not all that sure of this). But even then I'm not sure how far that could take us.

Alright that makes sense. So if the Rio 2016 regulations are 100% compulsory (and cannot be overrode by the Pacific Games or OFC regulations) then there are a couple of simple questions to be asked: Was the list of players from each country sent to the FIFA general secretariat in Zurich? Was there are a FIFA Match Commissioner inspecting passports on the eve of this match? Because if not, the entire tournament is legally null and void as an Olympic qualifier, right? Or is that a fairly extreme interpretation?