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Posted July 19, 2015 23:32 · last edited July 19, 2015 23:32

SurgeQld wrote:

For Andy Martin to sit there and admit that NZF didn't seek FIFA dispensation for Wynne (and others), because they were worried that FIFA would say no is absolutely beyond my comprehension. To jeopardise a whole campaign and "likely" appearance at an Olympic Games on that logic is inexcusable. Not to mention the impact on WC qualification losing those games and that 'contact time" will have on our squad.


He said the initial feedback they have gotten from the Lawyers is that if they ask for permission and its declined then thats that. I took it as saying that they have been told retrospectively and since this issue not that they had seeked advice on it beforehand.

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Ryan edited July 19, 2015 23:32
SurgeQld wrote:
Doloras wrote:

It's pretty much the same as "a sacrifice to appease the Gods!" I would agree with chopah that I'd much rather see a thorough clean-out of procedures than some schmuck being singled out as the scapegoat and everything else continuing as is.

No, it's not the same at all. And sure, I could have been less dramatic... so...

The "people in charge" have displayed levels of ineptitude well beyond what most of us would deem to be acceptable - even FIFA... sure, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. In saying that, most of us have a level of accountability also. This should also apply to NZF and their leadership.

For Andy Martin to sit there and admit that NZF didn't seek FIFA dispensation for Wynne (and others), because they were worried that FIFA would say no is absolutely beyond my comprehension. To jeopardise a whole campaign and "likely" appearance at an Olympic Games on that logic is inexcusable. Not to mention the impact on WC qualification losing those games and that 'contact time" will have on our squad.

Yes, processes clearly must change but there must also be accountability. That doesn't mean sacking someone to appease the maddening hordes (here or elsewhere), but acknowledging that someone clearly is not up to performing that aspect of their role, and make changes and provide support. That may mean removing someone, that may mean changes to who does what, or how, or when, etc etc.  

Acceptance of mediocrity and acquiescing to incompetence merely serves to underline the lack of professionalism and accountability within an organisation. As I'm sure many of us have witnessed first hand in other organisations.

He said the initial feedback they have gotten from the Lawyers is that if they ask for permission and its declined then thats that. I took it as saying that they have been told retrospectively and since this issue not that they had seeked advice on it beforehand.