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Posted July 18, 2015 22:35 · last edited July 18, 2015 22:36

O for Awesome wrote:

I know the statute debate has been done to death but there's something I can't figure out:

If nationality under the FIFA statutes is defined as being born in a given country, what is the purpose of "a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association" under article 7?

In what scenario could it be possible that you tick that box if you are acquiring a new FIFA nationality if FIFA nationality is defined by birth?

Or am I misinterpreting this entirely?

Nationality at birth is not the same as getting a nationality by virtue of where you were born. Most countries don't automatically give citizenship to anyone born in their territory anymore. The US does, and New Zealand used to but changed it about 10 years ago.

So I think the interpretation that under FIFA Statutes nationality is defined as being born in a given country is wrong. I think they mean they nationality you hold at birth, which isn't necessarily anything to do with where you were born. If an American couple had a kid in New Zealand their kid would be an American citizen by birth for instance. A kid born to kiwi parents in the USA could be a citizen of both the USA and NZ - USA by birth, NZ by descent.

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ConanTroutman edited July 18, 2015 22:36
O for Awesome wrote:

I know the statute debate has been done to death but there's something I can't figure out:

If nationality under the FIFA statutes is defined as being born in a given country, what is the purpose of "a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association" under article 7?

In what scenario could it be possible that you tick that box if you are acquiring a new FIFA nationality if FIFA nationality is defined by birth?

Or am I misinterpreting this entirely?

Nationality at birth is not the same as getting a nationality by virtue of where you were born. Most countries don't automatically give citizenship to anyone born in their territory anymore. The US does, and New Zealand used to but changed it about 10 years ago.

So I think the interpretation that under FIFA Statutes nationality is defined as being born in a given country is wrong. I think they mean they nationality you hold at birth, which isn't necessarily anything to do with where you were born. If an American couple had a kid in New Zealand their kid would be an American citizen by birth for instance.