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Posted August 06, 2015 19:10 · last edited August 06, 2015 19:30

Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but FIFA don't talk about what citizen status they hold. They specifically say 'if they are born'. If it said 'if they somehow hold a citizenship by some contrived manner at birth' then fair enough. In the above, they are born in the UK. Guess who they represent?

I think you are putting in too much time when its black and white. At the end of the day, they have to be born somewhere. If its not NZ and they don't meet the other criteria then they have to turn 18 and wait 5 or get an exemption. The end.

Fair point...

So in my scenario  you're saying:  we have 2 brothers with NZ Nationality at birth.... born to the same Parents...with the same Grandparents but they are unable to represent the same Country ?.

Wonder if there's precedent for that ?

Obviously there are many cases where siblings have chosen to represent different Nationalities they are both eligible for, just trying to think of case where they weren't eligible for the same country at their birth

(As mentioned previously I still think they;d be eligible under Article 5 - not that what I think matters, its FIFA  )

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I'm not your Bro... edited August 06, 2015 19:30
Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but FIFA don't talk about what citizen status they hold. They specifically say 'if they are born'. If it said 'if they somehow hold a citizenship by some contrived manner at birth' then fair enough. In the above, they are born in the UK. Guess who they represent?

I think you are putting in too much time when its black and white. At the end of the day, they have to be born somewhere. If its not NZ and they don't meet the other criteria then they have to turn 18 and wait 5 or get an exemption. The end.

Fair point...

So in my scenario  you're saying:  we have 2 brothers with NZ Nationality at birth.... born to the same Parents...with the same Grandparents but they are unable to represent the same Country ?.

Wonder if there's precedent for that ?

Obviously there are many cases where siblings have chosen to represent different Nationalities they are both eligible for, just trying to think of case where they weren't eligible for the same country at their birth

(As in my mentioned previously I still think they;d be eligible under Article 5)

I'm not your Bro... edited August 06, 2015 19:29
Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but FIFA don't talk about what citizen status they hold. They specifically say 'if they are born'. If it said 'if they somehow hold a citizenship by some contrived manner at birth' then fair enough. In the above, they are born in the UK. Guess who they represent?

I think you are putting in too much time when its black and white. At the end of the day, they have to be born somewhere. If its not NZ and they don't meet the other criteria then they have to turn 18 and wait 5 or get an exemption. The end.

Fair point...

So in my scenario :  we have 2 brothers with NZ Nationality at birth.... born to the same Parents...with the same Grandparents but they are unable to represent the same Country ? 

Wonder if there's precedent for that ?

Obviously there are many cases where siblings have chosen to represent different Nationalities they are both eligible for, just trying to think of case where they weren't eligible for the same country at their birth