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Posted June 13, 2017 15:40 · last edited June 13, 2017 15:41

ConanTroutman wrote:

Napier Phoenix wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Napier Phoenix wrote:

2 x 0-1 results against teams ranked higher than us -  relax, any result at the Confeds can be deemed a success given what we have and where we have come from.

That right there is the problem with just looking at results instead of performances.

They shouldn't keep scores, they mean nothing. Despite being the only part of the game that is not subjective.

Well the implication of just looking at the scores like that is that we aren't far off that level, which I think is false. Especially with friendlies building up to a major tournament, the score might be objective fact but it doesn't really tell you anything about what that means. The crucial games for us are the World Cup qualifiers against CONMEBOL (assuming we get there) and the Confeds Cup, and these friendlies are essentially dress rehearsals for that. So, yeah, the actual scores might not look bad but if we play like this in competitive games against teams like Portugal, Mexico, or whoever in South America we don't have a chance of nicking a result.

Would rather we lost by more but showed more signs of progress than took these 1-0 losses playing like we are. I don't think I'd be in the minority holding that view.

We are miles behind where we were in '99, '02, '06 and '09/10.

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ConanTroutman wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:

2 x 0-1 results against teams ranked higher than us -  relax, any result at the Confeds can be deemed a success given what we have and where we have come from.

That right there is the problem with just looking at results instead of performances.
They shouldn't keep scores, they mean nothing. Despite being the only part of the game that is not subjective.
Well the implication of just looking at the scores like that is that we aren't far off that level, which I think is false. Especially with friendlies building up to a major tournament, the score might be objective fact but it doesn't really tell you anything about what that means. The crucial games for us are the World Cup qualifiers against CONMEBOL (assuming we get there) and the Confeds Cup, and these friendlies are essentially dress rehearsals for that. So, yeah, the actual scores might not look bad but if we play like this in competitive games against teams like Portugal, Mexico, or whoever in South America we don't have a chance of nicking a result.

Would rather we lost by more but showed more signs of progress than took these 1-0 losses playing like we are. I don't think I'd be in the minority holding that view.

We are miles behind where we were in '99, '02, '06 and '09.

Unknown editor edited June 13, 2017 15:41
ConanTroutman wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:

2 x 0-1 results against teams ranked higher than us -  relax, any result at the Confeds can be deemed a success given what we have and where we have come from.

That right there is the problem with just looking at results instead of performances.
They shouldn't keep scores, they mean nothing. Despite being the only part of the game that is not subjective.
Well the implication of just looking at the scores like that is that we aren't far off that level, which I think is false. Especially with friendlies building up to a major tournament, the score might be objective fact but it doesn't really tell you anything about what that means. The crucial games for us are the World Cup qualifiers against CONMEBOL (assuming we get there) and the Confeds Cup, and these friendlies are essentially dress rehearsals for that. So, yeah, the actual scores might not look bad but if we play like this in competitive games against teams like Portugal, Mexico, or whoever in South America we don't have a chance of nicking a result.

Would rather we lost by more but showed more signs of progress than took these 1-0 losses playing like we are. I don't think I'd be in the minority holding that view.

We are miles behind where we were in '99, '02, '04/5 and '09.