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Posted December 03, 2017 14:31 · last edited December 03, 2017 17:39

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs (Syria & then Honduras) this time, but the Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. In reality this time FFA got 2 more high profile games at home - to boost football in the general public's mind, in the super competitive Australian sports market.

FFA and Aussie football fans generally enjoy being in Asia (sure has been far from perfect), and the large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted the Asian Cup a few years ago, and it was a massive unqualified success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still pissing around in with the island nations.

They disliked being in the stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever the current criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money, for their national team. NZF? Sure you can be top dog in your Confed, but it's still a depressingly shark hole Confed.

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Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 17:39

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs (Syria & then Honduras) this time, but the Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. In reality this time FFA got 2 more high profile games at home - to boost football in the general public's mind, in the super competitive Australian sports market.

FFA and Aussie football fans generally love being in Asia (sure has been far from perfect), and the large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted the Asian Cup a few years ago, and it was a massive unqualified success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still pissing around in with the island nations.

They disliked being in the stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever the current criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money, for their national team. NZF? Sure you can be top dog in your Confed, but it's still a depressingly shark hole Confed.

Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 17:37

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs (Syria & then Honduras) this time, but the Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. In reality this time FFA got 2 more high profile games at home - to boost football in the general public's mind, in the super competitive Australian sports market.

FFA and Aussie football fans generally love being in Asia (sure has been far from perfect), and the large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted the Asian Cup a few years ago, and it was a massive unqualified success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still pissing around in with the island nations.

They disliked being in the stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever the current criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money, for their national team. NZF?

Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 17:31

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs this time, but Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. FFA and Aussie football fans generally love being in Asia and large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted the Asian Cup a few years ago and was a massive success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still with the Islands.

They disliked being in stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever the criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money for their national team. NZF?

Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 14:33

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs this time, but Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. FFA and Aussie football fans generally love being in Asia and large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted the Asian Cup a few years ago and was a massive success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still with the Islands.

They disliked being in stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money for their national team. NZF?

Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 14:32

Marto wrote:

coochiee wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

newzealandpower wrote:

Cool, thanks. Here's to hoping we go back to playing an Asian team.

It will almost certainly be the same as it has been the last couple of cycles - a random draw with OFC/5th CONMEBOL/4th CONCACAF/5th ASIA in the hat.

Out of 6 two legged playoffs covering WC qualification 1986-2006 WCs, Socceroos I’m pretty sure drew a South American side 4 times (Argentina and Uruguay), plus Scotland and Iran. Lost 5 of those.

So if we can somehow make it next time (Asia or CONCACAF will do - Mexico won’t fudge up again), would have a better playoff history than Oz.

Still that old chestnut, NZF needs to just join Asia. AWs are the shop window to NZ football and how to give the game a local profile. We have some players doing well in Europe and people want to see them in big games regularly playing for the AWs. The profile will now be depressing for the next 3.5 yrs. Profile is sorry not built by the Football Ferns, or age group teams. FF probably good enough to qualify for Olympics and World Cups through Asia anyhow.

Basketball Tall Blacks now have a new Asian qualifying path. Basketball NZ have just announced new sponsorships leveraged off this!!

I hope NZF are watching closely. Of course do FIFA want NZ to join Asia like Australia??

NZF should be at least be asking the question, and watching how Asia works for Basketball!

While I agreed with the Asia line for so long, the day Oceania was handed 1.5 spots for the WC I stopped giving a shark at all and I bet Aussie now wishes it was back here with us.

Don’t be dumb or naive. From 2026 Asia gets from memory 8 spots?

Sure they had to go into qualifying playoffs this time, but Socceroos will always be in Asia’s top 8 sides. FFA and Aussie football fans generally love being in Asia and large number of international quality football games it gives them at home and aboard. I was in Australia when they hosted Asian Cup a few years ago and was a massive success. Aussies even said to me why are NZ still with the Islands.

They disliked being in stink hole Oceania even more than we do. Whatever criticisms of FFA they have both ambitions and money for their national team. NZF?