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Posted November 15, 2013 01:41 · last edited November 15, 2013 01:44

Bluemagic wrote:
U037 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:

What millions?

NZF is broke as it is. Any money made from the Mexico tie will certainly not go towards a "quality overseas coach".

Not gonna happen.

Broke? What are you on about? Have a look at the NZF 2012 Annual Report. NZF are doing a good job of managing the financial injection that came courtesy of NZ's WC appearance in 2010. This is probably one thing NZF can actually take credit for.

Also I've read a figure of $5 million from selling the second leg television rights and ticket sales. Reportedly there's still about $4.5 million of the WC 2010 money invested. That's hardly "broke".

The problem with bringing in a good overseas coach, and I'd love a fresh attacking mindset, is a lack of games. NZF hardly likes to dip into it's purse to fund internationals. However a new coach could target the next Confederations Cup in 2016, which should, if we qualify, be self-funding from the $1 million plus prize money for winning Oceania. That should be a decent carrot for any up and coming coach wanting to make a name on the international stage. Outside of Ramon Tribulietx of ACFC, I don't think there's a domestic coach good enough.


That $4.5m is in a charitable trust for the benefit of grassroots football, which is great. They can't simply raid it to pay the bills.

Without the $5m from TV rights for next week we would be in a pretty bad financial position (see my previous post) and close to going broke within the next couple of years. The $5m needs to be spent very carefully.

However, you are right to point out the dilemma of appointing a good coach on a good wage without also committing to a decent international programme for the AWs. Otherwise, what is that coach actually doing? You could easily spend all of that $5m just on that.

See how fragile our financial position actually is?

EDIT: what Jeff said :)

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terminator_x edited November 15, 2013 01:44
Bluemagic wrote:
U037 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:

What millions?

NZF is broke as it is. Any money made from the Mexico tie will certainly not go towards a "quality overseas coach".

Not gonna happen.

Broke? What are you on about? Have a look at the NZF 2012 Annual Report. NZF are doing a good job of managing the financial injection that came courtesy of NZ's WC appearance in 2010. This is probably one thing NZF can actually take credit for.

Also I've read a figure of $5 million from selling the second leg television rights and ticket sales. Reportedly there's still about $4.5 million of the WC 2010 money invested. That's hardly "broke".

The problem with bringing in a good overseas coach, and I'd love a fresh attacking mindset, is a lack of games. NZF hardly likes to dip into it's purse to fund internationals. However a new coach could target the next Confederations Cup in 2016, which should, if we qualify, be self-funding from the $1 million plus prize money for winning Oceania. That should be a decent carrot for any up and coming coach wanting to make a name on the international stage. Outside of Ramon Tribulietx of ACFC, I don't think there's a domestic coach good enough.


That $4.5m is in a charitable trust for the benefit of grassroots football, which is great. They can't simply raid it to pay the bills.

Without the $5m from TV rights for next week we would be in a pretty bad financial position (see my previous post) and close to going broke within the next couple of years. The $5m needs to be spent very carefully.

However, you are right to point out the dilemma of appointing a good coach on a good wage without also committing to a decent international programme for the AWs. Otherwise, what is that coach actually doing? You could easily spend all of that $5m just on that.

See how fragile our financial position actually is?

terminator_x edited November 15, 2013 01:42
Bluemagic wrote:
U037 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:

What millions?

NZF is broke as it is. Any money made from the Mexico tie will certainly not go towards a "quality overseas coach".

Not gonna happen.

Broke? What are you on about? Have a look at the NZF 2012 Annual Report. NZF are doing a good job of managing the financial injection that came courtesy of NZ's WC appearance in 2010. This is probably one thing NZF can actually take credit for.

Also I've read a figure of $5 million from selling the second leg television rights and ticket sales. Reportedly there's still about $4.5 million of the WC 2010 money invested. That's hardly "broke".

The problem with bringing in a good overseas coach, and I'd love a fresh attacking mindset, is a lack of games. NZF hardly likes to dip into it's purse to fund internationals. However a new coach could target the next Confederations Cup in 2016, which should, if we qualify, be self-funding from the $1 million plus prize money for winning Oceania. That should be a decent carrot for any up and coming coach wanting to make a name on the international stage. Outside of Ramon Tribulietx of ACFC, I don't think there's a domestic coach good enough.


That $4.5m is in a charitable trust for the benefit of grassroots football, which is great. They can't simply raid it to pay the bills.
Without the $5m from TV rights for next week we would be in a pretty bad financial position (see my previous post) and close to going broke within the next couple of years. The $5m needs to be spent very carefully.
However, you are right to point out the dilemma of appointing a good coach on a good wage without also committing to a decent international programme for the AWs. Otherwise, what is that coach actually doing? You could easily spend all of that $5m just on that.
See how fragile our financial position actually is?