The problem with NZ football

Oh goody, another Auckland City stupid.  Honestly, come back happyted, at least you have a basic grasp of the english language (among other positive points).

MD a few points:

1. Use of 'u' constitutes Text Speak... that contravenes forum rules.  Desist...

2. Also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

3. Do you have any idea what a Dojo is ?  Are you reallys saying that Kiwitea St. is Menapi's place ?

Thanks.

MenapisDojo is the bastard son of happyted and Uli Stieleke - the result of a drunken late night liason in the Kiwitea St toilets.

Oh dear you sad little bunch
but must give you credit for your devotion to your pathetic little
wooden spoon winning Aussie team
and is'nt a Dojo a karate school?
i guess the Menapis Dojo thing is lost on a bunch of thick as aussies eh

A Dojo is a path or a place in a temple.  Yes a Karate school could be 'held' there, but so could prayers.  It is a place, not the actual training or school.

Still, thanks for playing...

Hard News2008-07-07 22:31:28

Sad little Aussie team with support Auckland football has never delivered to the game despite three times the population... oh, and our NZFC finalists...where were Auckland in early May this year ?

Sad bunch - That would be the forums with close to 5000 members, vs Auckland City's with 19, and half of them are trolls from here.

Run home and come back when you have a clue at the moment your weak attempts to re-broadcast the HappyTed, Loz and Uli party line really is just embarrassing them.  They fight it with more wit, more eloquence and more persuasion.

As Term says, you are a sad clone of the once great Auckland fighters. 
Baiter2008-07-07 22:34:13

Actually, Uli Stekiele, despite having differing views on a number of matters (to which he is entitles) is actually a valuable, contributing member of this forum.

Here's a thought ManapisDojo, you head back to your forum and play nicely with both your mates and we'll enjoy ourselves down here.  And while we do something positive for NZ football, you can whinge and moan about what you haven't got, and how everything is unfair, and how life would be so good if the Phoenix went away

Click the link.... or go back to schoolchocnut2008-07-07 23:18:53

Ever seen karate Kid?

And the Phoenix can only dream of the on field success of Auckland City & Waitakere

No its nothing like Arsenal v Corinthians
there both english clubs playing in a english league unlike
those clowns from wellington who dont represent anyone
because no one wants them Asia dont and neither Oceania and most of NZ as well outside of Wellington and also Arsenal and Coriinthians dont embarrass the game in there country like wellington do with there wonderfully successful last place finish

Aren't Corinthians a Brazillian club?

I sense banstick coming on..

Yawn,

Your punctuation is worse than mine.

The FFA/A-league wants a NZ team and they got a NZ team. The A-league licence was given to NZF (a national association) and this is sub-let to the Wellington Phoenix Football Club (a NZ club). The relationship is very regulated.

Unlike the New Zealand Knight in Auckland, the licence was given straight to that Auckland Club with no regulative interaction with the NZS (precursor to NZF). So to an extent the NZ knights club could have been classified as Australian club but there is no way that can be extend to the Phoenix club by regulation control. The relationship is much more clearer.

No one in Australia are claiming that the Wellington Phoenix FC as one of theirs. Yet the majority of the people on this forum are in total agreement with the FFA, NZF and Wellington Phoenix that WPFC is in fact a NZ club and not an Australia team. The administrations of WP, NZF and FFA as well as AFC and OFC says that they are a NZ team that plays in the A-league. The A-league is also clearly classified as an international league (as well as an AFC competition) because of Phoenix club is playing in it.

The Phoenix is an Oceania team in an Asia league which is why AFC reject any possible inclusion in future ACL should they win the A-league. The FFA argument to the AFC was that if the Phoenix won the A-league, that they should qualify for ACL because they won an Asia league competition despite being an Oceania team.

OFC has no problems having the Phoenix as a future participant of the O-league. FIFA ruled that Phoenix cannot represent OFC because they have not won an Oceania competition. So by using that reference alone, This implies that AFC may have to relook at their policies of the Phoenix as possible participant in the ACL if they are to win it despite being a OFC club in an AFC competition.

This all really comes down to FIFA decision as to where the phoenix can participant in which champion competition path to reach CWC. This path however does not define whether Phoenix is an Australian club or a NZ club, it merely reinforces the competition that they represents.

So if I have a very good guess, FIFA will say that ACL has to be the path for Phoenix and not the O-league simply because they are a participant in the Australian competition to qualify and cannot qualify for O-league.

Ok right, if you don't understand that. Then you really have no idea of what you are talking about.

Now lets get back to the topic of this thread.

I say this, Wellington Phoenix is not a problem, far for it. They are if any thing a fantastic example of a successful NZ club that is going to start their 2nd season. Success that is professionally managed. Far better than what Football Kingz and New Zealand Knights done in the Australian football leagues and far better than any of our National Club League clubs or NZFC clubs had achieved for NZ (besides winning O=league and actual CWC representation - which WPFC are not able to get the chance to) . . . . and they did this from the bottom of the Australian A-league table.

You be silly to mock this situation.AllWhitebelievr2008-07-09 00:25:47

That is almost as laughable as your Karate Kid line.

This forum has more Phoenix supporters in Auckland than the Auckland City forum has City supporters.  You, and about half a dozen others seem to think you speak for the whole of New Zealand when you quite blatantly don't.

The Phoenix exists in no small part thanks to effort from an Auckland City supporter, plenty of the Auckland City fan base post on here, but only about 3 of you voice the 'oh my god, all of New Zealand hates you' line.

As I say, laughable.  You really should try talking to some people in the wider football community, you might be surprised to find that Phil's views aren't the gospel on NZ football.

Originally one of the great English amateur clubs, the Sao Paolo version are named after them.

By Godfathers, this is churlish tripe!

For the record, I was referring to the original Corinthians and not the Brazilians.

Hey MenapisDojo,

I think you will find it's spelt with an h.  Pooftah,

Ah, don't you just love pedantahry.

Damn skippy.

This argument in this thread is typical of what is wrong with NZ Football.

I agree with Agent 47..its peety garbage

Like the over 6000 that turned up to watch the Phoenix play in Christchurch against a Mainland selection today ?

Oh, md...

That's a HUGE knife to the heart of the grey and miserables.