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Posted November 14, 2013 09:05 · last edited November 14, 2013 09:17

Jeff Vader wrote:

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I'm struggling to see your point here

1: Ricki didn't tell them to play that way as you suggest

2: The players are professional footballers as you suggest

3: Everyone would like to see them play a certain way, but they did not as you suggest


If the coach didn't say to play that way, and it's recognised they are pro footballers who did not play probably how they should, then surely that if these are the best we have, then it's a fair stretch to say that we were just not good enough and they were better than us? With that in mind, and these are our best, then how does NZF saying "Start to play more offensively minded football, string some passes together and don't just defend for 90 mins." change anything.


The problem is the quality of player we produce and all the best intentions and game plans and tactics in the world will not make two shits of a difference if the players are not good enough to play that way.


Now if you had said "NZF have to put better systems in place to produce a better quality of footballer so we have the ability to play better football" well then you would be onto something

 

Agree, that's what I kinda meant, change the system to produce better players.

Still think that our current players are able to do slightly better though.

Hopefully they'll show it next week

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InsulinMachine edited November 14, 2013 09:17
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]

I'm struggling to see your point here

1: Ricki didn't tell them to play that way as you suggest

2: The players are professional footballers as you suggest

3: Everyone would like to see them play a certain way, but they did not as you suggest


If the coach didn't say to play that way, and it's recognised they are pro footballers who did not play probably how they should, then surely that if these are the best we have, then it's a fair stretch to say that we were just not good enough and they were better than us? With that in mind, and these are our best, then how does NZF saying "Start to play more offensively minded football, string some passes together and don't just defend for 90 mins." change anything.


The problem is the quality of player we produce and all the best intentions and game plans and tactics in the world will not make two shits of a difference if the players are not good enough to play that way.


Now if you had said "NZF have to put better systems in place to produce a better quality of footballer so we have the ability to play better football" well then you would be onto something

Agree, that's what I kinda meant, change the system to produce better players.

Still think that our current players are able to do slightly better.

Hopefully they'll show it next week

InsulinMachine edited November 14, 2013 09:17

[/quote]

I'm struggling to see your point here

1: Ricki didn't tell them to play that way as you suggest

2: The players are professional footballers as you suggest

3: Everyone would like to see them play a certain way, but they did not as you suggest


If the coach didn't say to play that way, and it's recognised they are pro footballers who did not play probably how they should, then surely that if these are the best we have, then it's a fair stretch to say that we were just not good enough and they were better than us? With that in mind, and these are our best, then how does NZF saying "Start to play more offensively minded football, string some passes together and don't just defend for 90 mins." change anything.


The problem is the quality of player we produce and all the best intentions and game plans and tactics in the world will not make two shits of a difference if the players are not good enough to play that way.


Now if you had said "NZF have to put better systems in place to produce a better quality of footballer so we have the ability to play better football" well then you would be onto something

[/quote]

Agree, that's what I kinda meant, change the system to produce better players.

Still think that our current players are able to do slightly better.

Hopefully they'll show it next week

InsulinMachine edited November 14, 2013 09:15

 [/quote]

I'm struggling to see your point here

1: Ricki didn't tell them to play that way as you suggest

2: The players are professional footballers as you suggest

3: Everyone would like to see them play a certain way, but they did not as you suggest


If the coach didn't say to play that way, and it's recognised they are pro footballers who did not play probably how they should, then surely that if these are the best we have, then it's a fair stretch to say that we were just not good enough and they were better than us? With that in mind, and these are our best, then how does NZF saying "Start to play more offensively minded football, string some passes together and don't just defend for 90 mins." change anything.


The problem is the quality of player we produce and all the best intentions and game plans and tactics in the world will not make two shits of a difference if the players are not good enough to play that way.


Now if you had said "NZF have to put better systems in place to produce a better quality of footballer so we have the ability to play better football" well then you would be onto something

[/quote]

Agree, that's what I kinda meant, change the system to produce better players.

Still think that our current players are able to do slightly better.

Hopefully they'll show it next week

InsulinMachine edited November 14, 2013 09:15
[/quote] I'm struggling to see your point here

1: Ricki didn't tell them to play that way as you suggest

2: The players are professional footballers as you suggest

3: Everyone would like to see them play a certain way, but they did not as you suggest


If the coach didn't say to play that way, and it's recognised they are pro footballers who did not play probably how they should, then surely that if these are the best we have, then it's a fair stretch to say that we were just not good enough and they were better than us? With that in mind, and these are our best, then how does NZF saying "Start to play more offensively minded football, string some passes together and don't just defend for 90 mins." change anything.


The problem is the quality of player we produce and all the best intentions and game plans and tactics in the world will not make two shits of a difference if the players are not good enough to play that way.


Now if you had said "NZF have to put better systems in place to produce a better quality of footballer so we have the ability to play better football" well then you would be onto something

[/quote]

Agree, that's what I kinda meant, change the system to produce better players.

Still think that our current players are able to do slightly better.

Hopefully they'll show it next week