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Posted November 15, 2013 02:13 · last edited November 15, 2013 02:16

Jeff Vader wrote:
Bluemagic wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Your comment that we could have beaten Mexico etc shows that you have no knowledge what so ever of either football or in this case International football.


Bet you didn't think we could draw with Italy in 2010 either.


Back in your box old man.


I actually agree with Leggy on this one (I think I might be coming down with something). To say we could have beaten Mexico is very ignorant of just who was in our team and who we were up against. We could play that game again 10 times over and they would rock us 10 times again and some of those saves that Moss made, may have gone in on a different day blowing it out even more. We got absolutely destroyed and if not for the performance of Moss, it would have been a worse scoreline.

I agree to an extent but with Reid, Roux, Tuiloma, a match fit Rojas and Smeltz, and no Christie, Bertos, Durante and Lochhead we could have come close I believe. I don't believe the gap between the Mexican domestic players and our best professional talents is so big. But we needed young legs, pace and a determination to keep possession and press them. Some of this was forced in Ricki, some was his own peculiar stubborn foolishness. The end result has been a setback of the All Whites brand which should be posting better performances, just as the failure to qualify for the last Confederations Cup was. The buck stops at Ricki's door because the raw material is there to do much better.

Responding to this in an unemotive manner I don't think I can agree with most of that.

I don't get why we are calling to throw Strom Roux in there who has had 4 A League games. Far more experienced footballers were down right embarrassed. McGlinchy, near the top of the medal table for A League footballers last year - ineffectual. Yes Roux might have been quicker cause he is younger but also way less experienced. What do you expect him to have done that Bertos could not have done? Durante, fringe Socceroo and now AW. Embarrassed.

The gap between our footballers and Mexican domestic footballers is massive and I believe you are kidding yourself. They played some lovely one touch football in front of our goal that we have not even a shit show of matching with even our best team out there.

 

I just do not get some of this 'football logic' that is being spouted as stuff that should have been done but clearly ignoring facts.

Durante is a long way away from fringe socceroo on current form
And we all know we are miles away from Mexico in terms of quality. But we are certainly better than the team that played yesterday and its a pretty poor look when the whole world is watching.
People were never saying we could/would qualify because we are better.

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threatD edited November 15, 2013 02:16
Jeff Vader wrote:
Bluemagic wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Your comment that we could have beaten Mexico etc shows that you have no knowledge what so ever of either football or in this case International football.


Bet you didn't think we could draw with Italy in 2010 either.


Back in your box old man.


I actually agree with Leggy on this one (I think I might be coming down with something). To say we could have beaten Mexico is very ignorant of just who was in our team and who we were up against. We could play that game again 10 times over and they would rock us 10 times again and some of those saves that Moss made, may have gone in on a different day blowing it out even more. We got absolutely destroyed and if not for the performance of Moss, it would have been a worse scoreline.

I agree to an extent but with Reid, Roux, Tuiloma, a match fit Rojas and Smeltz, and no Christie, Bertos, Durante and Lochhead we could have come close I believe. I don't believe the gap between the Mexican domestic players and our best professional talents is so big. But we needed young legs, pace and a determination to keep possession and press them. Some of this was forced in Ricki, some was his own peculiar stubborn foolishness. The end result has been a setback of the All Whites brand which should be posting better performances, just as the failure to qualify for the last Confederations Cup was. The buck stops at Ricki's door because the raw material is there to do much better.

Responding to this in an unemotive manner I don't think I can agree with most of that.

I don't get why we are calling to throw Strom Roux in there who has had 4 A League games. Far more experienced footballers were down right embarrassed. McGlinchy, near the top of the medal table for A League footballers last year - ineffectual. Yes Roux might have been quicker cause he is younger but also way less experienced. What do you expect him to have done that Bertos could not have done? Durante, fringe Socceroo and now AW. Embarrassed.

The gap between our footballers and Mexican domestic footballers is massive and I believe you are kidding yourself. They played some lovely one touch football in front of our goal that we have not even a shit show of matching with even our best team out there.

I just do not get some of this 'football logic' that is being spouted as stuff that should have been done but clearly ignoring facts.

Durante is a long way away from fringe socceroo on current form