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Posted May 24, 2013 21:17 · last edited May 24, 2013 21:19

So now it's the dream that matters? Ok, you change your stance to suit your position a lot.

Please tell me how participation.... er 'the dream' makes the competition competitive? You can't because it doesn't. The fact remains, ASB, SPL are not competitive and people in the UK have been saying the SPL has been poked for years. The rich get richer in Europe and the also rans keep being the also rans. Celtic and Rangers were active in trying to get out of Scotland and into something else because its such a crap league for years. Lets not rewrite history to suit your argument. Stop throwing up these red herrings.

The U20s have a dream of doing well at the local WC. This helps facilitate that. Does that fit in with your 'dream' statement?

Taking out YHM and adding U20s does not turn the comp into a training ground. If that's your argument then it's been that way for a couple years with a mandate of having to field x amount of youth players or whatever that policy was so you have no argument. Spoonley hasn't sat on the bench because ACFC choose to put a kid as the reserve GK - a classic example. Whether its YHM coming last again, replacing them does not change the competition. If you decide to deny entry to the 60 yo guy at the Auckland marathon because he has come last the last few years and let someone else who could potentially do better, does not make any difference to the other participants or change the makeup of the marathon. Because this decision has zero effect on your club or the competition, the bare faced facts suggest you just don't like change or have a greater bugbear. This does nothing to affect your club and arguing it makes the league less competitive when it's not competitive already is a circular argument.

Again, how does U20 being in this league instead of YHM makes the competition worse? I want you to tell me.

I also don't have to temper my views because if it looks like spam and tastes like spam, I'm not going to sell it as scotch fillet.

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Jeff Vader edited May 24, 2013 21:19

So now it's the dream that matters? Ok, you change your stance to suit your position a lot.

Please tell me how participation.... er 'the dream' makes the competition competitive? You can't because it doesn't. The fact remains, ASB, SPL are not competitive and people in the UK have been saying the SPL has been poked for years. The rich get richer in Europe and the also rans keep being the also rans. Celtic and Rangers were active in trying to get out of Scotland and into something else because its such a crap league for years. Lets not rewrite history to suit your argument. Stop throwing up these red herrings.

The U20s have a dream of doing well at the local WC. This helps facilitate that. Does that fit in with your 'dream' statement?

Taking out YHM and adding U20s does not turn the comp into a training ground. If that's your argument then it's been that way for a couple years with a mandate of having to field x amount of youth players or whatever that policy was so you have no argument. Spoonley hasn't sat on the bench because ACFC choose to put a kid as the reserve GK - a classic example. Whether its YHM coming last again, replacing them does not change the competition. If you decide to deny entry to the 60 yo guy at the Auckland marathon because he has come last the last few years and let someone else who could potentially do better, does not make any difference to the other participants or change the makeup of the marathon. Because this decision has zero effect on your club, the bare faced facts suggest you just don't like change or have a greater bugbear. This does nothing to affect your club and arguing it makes the league less competitive when it's not competitive already is a circular argument.

Again, how does U20 being in this league instead of YHM makes the competition worse? I want you to tell me.

I also don't have to temper my views because if it looks like spam and tastes like spam, I'm not going to sell it as scotch fillet.