Dylan's first yellow was bad refereeing.
Why was it bad refereeing? You can't stop someone from taking a free kick like that, your always going to get a yellow. (1min 34 sec in)
Even as a biased ACFC person Peter Linney got it absolutely spot on no disputes from me. Can't obstruct a free kick like that.
Dylan's first yellow was bad refereeing.
Why was it bad refereeing? You can't stop someone from taking a free kick like that, your always going to get a yellow. (1min 34 sec in)
He didn't ask for 10 and decided to take a quick free kick. Dylan didn't prevent the kick from being taken.
Sure it's poor sportsmanship, but what he didn't isn't against the rules.
1. When a free kick is taken, an opponent is closer to the ball than the required distance, the kick is retaken unless the advantage can be applied; but if a player takes a free kick quickly and an opponent who is less than 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball intercepts it, the referee allows play to continue.
2. However, an opponent who deliberately prevents a free kick being taken quickly must be cautioned for delaying the restart of play.
What the ref's done is elected the second rule - which is incorrect as he didn't prevent it from being taken.
Interception implies the ball has travelled some distance. Prevent implies at the point of the pass being made. The latter is more accurate to the incident in that video.
I suggest you watch the video again, the ball wasn't going to hit the player until he stuck his leg in the way. You're right they don't have to be ten but that's to not punish the defender for having the ball kicked into them. He clearly stuck his foot out and tried to prevent the quick kick.
Yes but he was retreating - infact he was kinda running past rather than standing infront of the kick.
I don't actually have a problem with the yellow but having watched this game I was curious when this was given and he had allowed other offenses like shirt pulling, kicking the ball away etc which are of a similar level of offending go without cards.
That's for me where he didn't do very well.
Yes but he was retreating - infact he was kinda running past rather than standing infront of the kick.
I don't actually have a problem with the yellow but having watched this game I was curious when this was given and he had allowed other offenses like shirt pulling, kicking the ball away etc which are of a similar level of offending go without cards.
That's for me where he didn't do very well.
Difference here is expectations of how the referee is meant to manage the infringements
"However, an opponent who deliberately prevents a free kick being taken quickly must be cautioned for delaying the restart of play."
http://theifab.com/laws/free-kicks-2018/chapters/free-kick-offences-and-sanctions-2018
While those other situations, the referee doesn't have to show a card. He can either verbally warn, call a foul or show a caution. So comes down to his man management. What the Auckland City player did, he has to be shown a card.
Also yes he was retreating and again if ball was then kicked into him, he would of been fine, instead he stuck his leg out to prevent the kick.
I don't want to get in a big debate about this - but something you said has me intrigued.
You said in those other situations - like kicking the ball away he dosn't have to show a card, I thought he was required to card the offender. in this case as it's essentially the same law (delaying the restart of play) - so i looked it up on the link you provided:
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
So again Dylan's card by the letter of the law is correct - but then shouldn't the other offenses covered above also be cards? or does some common sense come into play on both of those occasions.
I don't want to get in a big debate about this - but something you said has me intrigued.
You said in those other situations - like kicking the ball away he dosn't have to show a card, I thought he was required to card the offender. in this case as it's essentially the same law (delaying the restart of play) - so i looked it up on the link you provided:
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
So again Dylan's card by the letter of the law is correct - but then shouldn't the other offenses covered above also be cards? or does some common sense come into play on both of those occasions.
Was the ball kicked away to delay a restart though? Or was it more a kick away like dissent? Without seeing what actually happen, I can't say which applies but yes as per above if it was for delaying a restart then it should have been a card. I'd normally apply that though if it was a case of the team was ready to take a quick free kick and the opposition player kicked it preventing this. Not for cases where the player hasn't even got the ball ready to take a free kick.
I don't want to get in a big debate about this - but something you said has me intrigued.
You said in those other situations - like kicking the ball away he dosn't have to show a card, I thought he was required to card the offender. in this case as it's essentially the same law (delaying the restart of play) - so i looked it up on the link you provided:
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
So again Dylan's card by the letter of the law is correct - but then shouldn't the other offenses covered above also be cards? or does some common sense come into play on both of those occasions.
Was the ball kicked away to delay a restart though? Or was it more a kick away like dissent? Without seeing what actually happen, I can't say which applies but yes as per above if it was for delaying a restart then it should have been a card. I'd normally apply that though if it was a case of the team was ready to take a quick free kick and the opposition player kicked it preventing this. Not for cases where the player hasn't even got the ball ready to take a free kick.
I don't want to get in a big debate about this - but something you said has me intrigued.
You said in those other situations - like kicking the ball away he dosn't have to show a card, I thought he was required to card the offender. in this case as it's essentially the same law (delaying the restart of play) - so i looked it up on the link you provided:
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
So again Dylan's card by the letter of the law is correct - but then shouldn't the other offenses covered above also be cards? or does some common sense come into play on both of those occasions.
Was the ball kicked away to delay a restart though? Or was it more a kick away like dissent? Without seeing what actually happen, I can't say which applies but yes as per above if it was for delaying a restart then it should have been a card. I'd normally apply that though if it was a case of the team was ready to take a quick free kick and the opposition player kicked it preventing this. Not for cases where the player hasn't even got the ball ready to take a free kick.
Think you might need to read it again, Chopah wasn't asking about the card in the video but about a different situation where a player is said to have kicked the ball away.
I don't want to get in a big debate about this - but something you said has me intrigued.
You said in those other situations - like kicking the ball away he dosn't have to show a card, I thought he was required to card the offender. in this case as it's essentially the same law (delaying the restart of play) - so i looked it up on the link you provided:
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
So again Dylan's card by the letter of the law is correct - but then shouldn't the other offenses covered above also be cards? or does some common sense come into play on both of those occasions.
Was the ball kicked away to delay a restart though? Or was it more a kick away like dissent? Without seeing what actually happen, I can't say which applies but yes as per above if it was for delaying a restart then it should have been a card. I'd normally apply that though if it was a case of the team was ready to take a quick free kick and the opposition player kicked it preventing this. Not for cases where the player hasn't even got the ball ready to take a free kick.
Think you might need to read it again, Chopah wasn't asking about the card in the video but about a different situation where a player is said to have kicked the ball away.
Selection headaches for Ramon this week with David Browne and Micah Lea'alafa back in the mix. Shocked to see Browne back so soon after the head knock the last time they played Tasman but it's fantastic to see.
Selection headaches for Ramon this week with David Browne and Micah Lea'alafa back in the mix. Shocked to see Browne back so soon after the head knock the last time they played Tasman but it's fantastic to see.
We could really do with Browne, don't rate Drake at all.
Selection headaches for Ramon this week with David Browne and Micah Lea'alafa back in the mix. Shocked to see Browne back so soon after the head knock the last time they played Tasman but it's fantastic to see.
We could really do with Browne, don't rate Drake at all.
I didn’t at all last season but he’s had a fantastic improvement in the past few months, doesn’t look out of place at all for me
Selection headaches for Ramon this week with David Browne and Micah Lea'alafa back in the mix. Shocked to see Browne back so soon after the head knock the last time they played Tasman but it's fantastic to see.
We could really do with Browne, don't rate Drake at all.
I didn’t at all last season but he’s had a fantastic improvement in the past few months, doesn’t look out of place at all for me
He's OK, but very much a 3rd string player for me. We've looked flat since Browne's been out - not saying that's Drake's fault by any stretch, but he isn't as creative.
The other two selections I'm not so keen on is Alfie over Iwata and playing Mario as a mid. It seems to be working, but I don't feel like that's our strongest formation.
Selection headaches for Ramon this week with David Browne and Micah Lea'alafa back in the mix. Shocked to see Browne back so soon after the head knock the last time they played Tasman but it's fantastic to see.
We could really do with Browne, don't rate Drake at all.
I didn’t at all last season but he’s had a fantastic improvement in the past few months, doesn’t look out of place at all for me
The other two selections I'm not so keen on is Alfie over Iwata and playing Mario as a mid. It seems to be working, but I don't feel like that's our strongest formation.
Bang on, agree with both those points. Riera coming back will push Bilen (who looks better at centre back anyway, albeit a bit ball-watchy) to the bench, and Iwata I think is great so not sure why he’s being neglected for Alfie.
Doing so well with so many injuries and suspensions to our best players is testament to how good this team really is
Alfies a weird selection. I'm amazed Iwata has been getting dropped. He offers a lot going forward and is an all round better player than Alfie
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TAWH is better in the mid than Mario - who's very much a limited defender, so it's really baffling why Ramons made that change.
But hey, we're still winning, so it must be working
Yeah Rogers over Iwata is odd. Is it a foreign player limit issue? If not for now, then with the O-League in mind (and thus ensuring that Rogers is as prepped as possible)
3-1 win over Tasman a brace to David Browne and a Javier Lopez penalty good way to end 2018.
Signed Colombian winger Omar Guardiola and Swedish striker Patrick Lundemo.
Guardiola obviously having spent a lot of time in the country with Southern and Tasman among others, Lundemo having played his whole senior career at Enkopings in the fifth and sixth tiers of Swedish football (only 24).
Great news, should really increase the competitiveness of the league.
Auckland very lucky today. A comedic own goal and a massive deflection from a free kick.
Quality is no where near as good as it has been in past seasons. Lots of possession but very little return.
Yeah, city were poor today. Needed to be more direct. Southern defended well, very compact and held a high line.
They got away with lots of niggly fouls which stopped their rhythm.
Drawn against Chinese Super League side Shandong Luneng Taishan in the Semi Finals of the Tonghai Financial Chinese New Year Cup (Formerly the Nike Lunar New Year Cup)
Comfortable 4-1 win for City today, could have easily finished worse for HB
Played much better than previous weeks.
Some strange team selections from Ramon, Ali starting and playing deep, no out and out striker. Ref was poor.
Comfortable 4-1 win for City today, could have easily finished worse for HB
Played much better than previous weeks.
Some strange team selections from Ramon, Ali starting and playing deep, no out and out striker. Ref was poor.
Keen to see how that guy Lundemo goes, especially seeing as he came from such a poor league (Swedish 4th div). Any idea where Lopez was? Good to hear we played better, honestly been really worried the past few weeks that we'd choke in the playoffs
Comfortable 4-1 win for City today, could have easily finished worse for HB
Played much better than previous weeks.
Some strange team selections from Ramon, Ali starting and playing deep, no out and out striker. Ref was poor.
won't he just be rotating players and resting some with them off to Hong Kong tomorrow
Comfortable 4-1 win for City today, could have easily finished worse for HB
Played much better than previous weeks.
Some strange team selections from Ramon, Ali starting and playing deep, no out and out striker. Ref was poor.
won't he just be rotating players and resting some with them off to Hong Kong tomorrow
Eastern Suburbs will be delighted if they're off to Hong Kong tomorrow.
Comfortable 4-1 win for City today, could have easily finished worse for HB
Played much better than previous weeks.
Some strange team selections from Ramon, Ali starting and playing deep, no out and out striker. Ref was poor.
won't he just be rotating players and resting some with them off to Hong Kong tomorrow
Eastern Suburbs will be delighted if they're off to Hong Kong tomorrow.
Aye, think I'm still in christmas mode and not realising what the dates are!!!
Yawn, another victory for ACFC more or less cements them as minor premiership winners. Much better second half from suburbs to go down 3-2.
Funny to see the auckland city ball boys all disappear after 75 minutes
Yawn, another victory for ACFC more or less cements them as minor premiership winners. Much better second half from suburbs to go down 3-2.
Funny to see the auckland city ball boys all disappear after 75 minutes
Where were the ball boys all game!?! Players had to get the ball themselves or have the crowd throw it back.
Biggest game of the season and they didn't have any on along the side of the pitch or behind the goal until late in the 2nd half
Yawn, another victory for ACFC more or less cements them as minor premiership winners. Much better second half from suburbs to go down 3-2.
Funny to see the auckland city ball boys all disappear after 75 minutes
Where were the ball boys all game!?! Players had to get the ball themselves or have the crowd throw it back.
Biggest game of the season and they didn't have any on along the side of the pitch or behind the goal until late in the 2nd half
Every other club has to have them for the full game, Auckland should not be exempt! Hopefully it was bought to the officials attention.
Deserved win for City in the end but I think Ramon will be alarmed how they switched off and allowed Suburbs to come back into that.
Another day another win Maro-Bonsu-Maro coming off the bench to score 1-0 win over Canterbury United big week ahead for the club with three games in two different continents.
Fernando Torres with his 7 million Instagram followers just posted a pic of Hudson-Wihongi, bet he's stoked
Any way to watch the upcoming games?
Fantastic article here from the ACFC website showing just what they're up against in just under 24 hours
http://www.aucklandcityfc.com/news/892/12/This-is-football-at-a-different-level-Tribulietx/
I see Rob Morrison has raised the prospect again, of an A League bid from Auckland.
Are ACFC interested?
Or are they just happy to remain as a Handy Prem team, playing regularly in front of crowds of a few hundred people, punctuated by one game appearances at the CWC (a competition FIFA want to move to a 4 year cycle), or this Chinese New Year Cup event that probably only the good people of Hong Kong care about.
Are ACFC interested?
I would be very surprised if they were.
Probably need a backer that isn't the (thanks a) Trillon Trust™
