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Posted December 13, 2013 11:31 · last edited December 13, 2013 11:32

alireggae wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

 Ali has even helped you out and agreed with me - those players are imports. Full stop.


To clarify - I still don't get your point or what we're trying to achieve by classifying players as imports or otherwise. 


One clear and obvious classification is that there are players in the league, most obviously at ACFC, who were brought here to play football, and are paid to do it. While the ASBP remains an amateur competition, their classification and the role they play in the league will always be up for debate. And so it should be, it is a blatant breach of the rules.


I am good friends with a few former ACFC players, and one or two from the current squad. If anyone thinks that they do not discuss their respective remunerations with each other and people outside the squad, then you are wrong. If anyone thinks that there are several kiwi/NZ born/local players (call them what you will) during recent seasons who have not resented the amount paid to the Spaniards when compared to what the locals receive (if anything), then you are also wrong. 


There are some notable ACFC names who have retired or left Kiwitea St in recent years as a result of their belief that they are undervalued in a financial sense, when compared to the imports, some of whom were paid from the day they got off the plane and before they had proven themselves on the field. I have been told that the going rate for their imports has been approx $50k each per season, plus a few other things thrown in, cars, accommodation etc.


They are imports, in the same way that any professional sportsman in any professional league in the world is classified, when they are brought into play in a domestic competition. There are no coincidences or aligning of the stars for ACFC where it just so happened that a whole bunch of guys from Spain happened to arrive in Auckland at about the same time on holiday or to study or work etc and were lucky enough to find a Spanish coach who convinced them to play while they are here to keep fit etc etc.


If ACFC's next coach is Ukrainian, then with their player budget of $350k we might expect another coincidental influx of 5 or 6 Ukrainian males of approximately 23-30 yrs of age to arrive in Auckland who all happen to play football and who might be able to be convinced to play while they are here.


Call them what you want, but for want of a better classification, import makes the most sense.


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Press Pass edited December 13, 2013 11:32
alireggae wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

 Ali has even helped you out and agreed with me - those players are imports. Full stop.


To clarify - I still don't get your point or what we're trying to achieve by classifying players as imports or otherwise. 

One clear and obvious classification is that there are players in the league, most obviously at ACFC, who were brought here to play football, and are paid to do it. While the ASBP remains an amateur competition, their classification and the role they play in the league will always be up for debate. And so it should be, it is a blatant breach of the rules.
I am good friends with a few former ACFC players, and one or two from the current squad. If anyone thinks that they do not discuss their respective remunerations with each other and people outside the squad, then you are wrong. If anyone thinks that there are several kiwi/NZ born/local players (call them what you will) during recent seasons who have not resented the amount paid to the Spaniards when compared to what the locals receive (if anything), then you are also wrong. 
There are some notable ACFC names who have retired or left Kiwitea St in recent years as a result of their belief that they are undervalued in a financial sense, when compared to the imports, some of whom were paid from the day they got off the plane and before they had proven themselves on the field. I have been told that the going rate for their imports has been approx $50k each per season, plus a few other things thrown in, cars, accommodation etc.
They are imports, in the same way that any professional sportsman in any professional league in the world is classified, when they are brought into play in a domestic competition. There are no coincidences or aligning of the stars for ACFC where it just so happened that a whole bunch of guys from Spain happened to arrive in Auckland at about the same time on holiday or to study or work etc and were lucky enough to find a Spanish coach who convinced them to play while they are here to keep fit etc etc.
If ACFC's next coach is Ukrainian, then with their player budget of $350k we might expect another coincidental influx of 5 or 6 Ukrainian males of approximately 23-30 yrs of age to arrive in Auckland who all happen to play football and who might be able to be convinced to play while they are here.
Call them what you want, but for want of a better classification, import makes the most sense.