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Posted February 18, 2014 09:22 · last edited February 18, 2014 09:44

AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Yea amazing how some kids throw their toys and have a tanty because they don't get things their own way. Fact is KB as the most successful coach Canterbury has had gets to call the shots as he sees it period. We're still in with a crack in the evenest league for a long time.

Here are the stats for CU league games:

Coach P W D L W% D% L% F A
Danny Halligan 73 29 14 30 39.73% 19.18% 41.10% 107 114
Korouch Monsef 25 5 3 17 20.0% 12.0% 68.0% 26 56
Keith Braithwaite 69 35 12 22 50.72% 17.39% 31.88% 136 79
TOTALS 167 69 27 69 41.32% 16.17% 41.32% 269 249

 

Some may lament such a win ratio.
 

Actually, I think a 50.72% win ratio (+ 17.39 % draw) isn't too bad.

After Ferguson, Wenger is the most successful manager in English football of the last 17 years  - and his win ratio in that period (to October 2013) is 57.9 %.

Arsenal historically are one of England's top clubs right?   And yet Wenger is the only post-war Gunners manager to win more than half of his games.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/behind-the-numbers-wenger-s-17-years

The difference of course is that Braithwaite hasn't won anything yet  - but he's only been in charge for five seasons compared to Wenger's 17. Any manager who has a 50% or greater win ratio in any league deserves a chance to carry on beyond five seasons.


Mourinho at Chelsea is also in his fifth season in charge and as at October 2013 had an amazing 76% win percentage with Chelsea - but that's pretty rare anywhere in world football:

https://twitter.com/chelseafc/status/395138450657001472


Alex Ferguson's win percentage at Man Utd was 59.67% and only five other managers (of the 19 not counting Moyes) in the club's 122 year history have a 50% or better win percentage.

Moyes currently has a 55.26%  win percentage from 38 competitive games (W:27 D:7  L:10) which understandably is seen as poor compared to Ferguson since the side lie only seventh on the EPL table after 26 games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers#Statistics

A lot depends on how much money a franchise has to throw around on players - Auckland and Waitakere must have simply had much more to play with. I don't know how Canterbury United's budget compares but they've never been able to attract many decent players from outside the region since the franchise-based league started in 2004 and until this season generally avoided foreign imports (apart from the one Solomon Islander a season).

To my mind, Wellington are the big under-achievers with their population base and access to Phoenix youth prospects etc.

I suppose Christchurch United and Mount Wellington dominated the national league 1970 - 1992 because they had more money than other sides, as well as the best coaches. They would bring out top imports like Sumner, Almond, McClure and attract good players from other NZ clubs like Wooddin, Keith Nelson, Grant Turner etc. 



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Big Pete 65 edited February 18, 2014 09:44
AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Yea amazing how some kids throw their toys and have a tanty because they don't get things their own way. Fact is KB as the most successful coach Canterbury has had gets to call the shots as he sees it period. We're still in with a crack in the evenest league for a long time.

Here are the stats for CU league games:

Coach P W D L W% D% L% F A
Danny Halligan 73 29 14 30 39.73% 19.18% 41.10% 107 114
Korouch Monsef 25 5 3 17 20.0% 12.0% 68.0% 26 56
Keith Braithwaite 69 35 12 22 50.72% 17.39% 31.88% 136 79
TOTALS 167 69 27 69 41.32% 16.17% 41.32% 269 249

Some may lament such a win ratio.
 

Actually, I think a 50.72% win ratio (+ 17.39 % draw) isn't too bad.

After Ferguson, Wenger is the most successful manager in English football of the last 17 years  - and his win ratio in that period (to October 2013) is 57.9 %.

Arsenal historically are one of England's top clubs right?   And yet Wenger is the only post-war Gunners manager to win more than half of his games.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/behind-the-numbers-wenger-s-17-years

The difference of course is that Braithwaite hasn't won anything yet  - but he's only been in charge for five seasons compared to Wenger's 17. Any manager who has a 50% or greater win ratio in any league deserves a chance to carry on beyond five seasons.


Mourinho at Chelsea is also in his fifth season in charge and as at October 2013 had an amazing 76% win percentage with Chelsea - but that's pretty rare anywhere in world football:

https://twitter.com/chelseafc/status/395138450657001472


Alex Ferguson's win percentage at Man Utd was 59.67% and only five other managers (of the 19 not counting Moyes) in the club's 122 year history have a 50% or better win percentage.

Moyes currently has a 55.26%  win percentage from 38 competitive games (W:27 D:7  L:10) which understandably is seen as poor compared to Ferguson since the side lie only seventh on the EPL table after 26 games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers#Statistics



Big Pete 65 edited February 18, 2014 09:25
AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Yea amazing how some kids throw their toys and have a tanty because they don't get things their own way. Fact is KB as the most successful coach Canterbury has had gets to call the shots as he sees it period. We're still in with a crack in the evenest league for a long time.

Here are the stats for CU league games:

Coach P W D L W% D% L% F A
Danny Halligan 73 29 14 30 39.73% 19.18% 41.10% 107 114
Korouch Monsef 25 5 3 17 20.0% 12.0% 68.0% 26 56
Keith Braithwaite 69 35 12 22 50.72% 17.39% 31.88% 136 79
TOTALS 167 69 27 69 41.32% 16.17% 41.32% 269 249
Some may lament such a win ratio.
 
Actually, I think a 50.72% win ratio (+ 17.39 % draw) isn't too bad.
After Ferguson, Wenger is the most successful manager in English football of the last 17 years  - and his win ratio in that period (to October 2013) is 57.9 %.
Arsenal historically are one of England's top clubs right?   And yet Wenger is the only post-war Gunners manager to win more than half of his games.
The difference of course is that Braithwaite hasn't won anything yet  - but he's only been in charge for five seasons compared to Wenger's 17. Any manager who has a 50% or greater win ratio in any league deserves a chance to carry on beyond five seasons.
Mourinho at Chelsea is also in his fifth season in charge and as at October 2013 had an amazing 76% win percentage with Chelsea - but that's pretty rare anywhere in world football:
Alex Ferguson's win percentage at Man Utd was 59.67% and only five other managers (of the 19 not counting Moyes) in the club's 122 year history have a 50% or better win percentage.
Moyes currently has a 55.26%  win percentage from 38 competitive games (W:27 D:7  L:10) which understandably is seen as poor compared to Ferguson since the side lie only seventh on the EPL table after 26 games.


Big Pete 65 edited February 18, 2014 09:24
AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Yea amazing how some kids throw their toys and have a tanty because they don't get things their own way. Fact is KB as the most successful coach Canterbury has had gets to call the shots as he sees it period. We're still in with a crack in the evenest league for a long time.

Here are the stats for CU league games:

Coach P W D L W% D% L% F A
Danny Halligan 73 29 14 30 39.73% 19.18% 41.10% 107 114
Korouch Monsef 25 5 3 17 20.0% 12.0% 68.0% 26 56
Keith Braithwaite 69 35 12 22 50.72% 17.39% 31.88% 136 79
TOTALS 167 69 27 69 41.32% 16.17% 41.32% 269 249
Some may lament such a win ratio.
 
Actually, I think a 50.72% win ratio (+ 17.39 % draw) isn't too bad.
After Ferguson, Wenger is the most successful manager in English football of the last 17 years  - and his win ratio in that period (to October 2013) is 57.9 %.
Arsenal historically are one of England's top clubs right?   And yet Wenger is the only post-war Gunners manager to win more than half of his games.
The difference of course is that Braithwaite hasn't won anything yet  - but he's only been in charge for five seasons compared to Wenger's 17. Any manager who has a 50% or greater win ratio in any league deserves a chance to carry on beyond five seasons.
Mourinho at Chelsea is also in his fifth season in charge and as at October 2013 had an amazing 76% win percentage with Chelsea - but that's pretty rare anywhere in world football:
Alex Ferguson's win percentage at Man Utd was 59.67% and only five other managers (of the 19 not counting Moyes) in the club's 122 year history have a 50% or better win percentage.
Moyes currently has a 55.26%  win percentage from 38 competitive games (W:27 D:7  L:10) which understandably is seen as poor compared to Ferguson since the side lie only seventh on the EPL table after 26 games.