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Posted September 07, 2025 03:52 · last edited September 07, 2025 04:23

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ballane
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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has:
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons.

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid.

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?

To quote our local journalist from earlier in the thread:
This whole thing feels messy — what’s actually going on here?

You're not wrong.- A. Voerman.

I mean if all of our fans and the rest the schadenfraueden country is convinced that it’s obviously clear that for the good of the country, OFC and everything that CU is better than us, let’s just give them our A league license and save Rob and co the money right? 

This is the kind of thing where the fans need to support our club. I mean it’s just assumed there should never be a hub in Wellington home of football, the 2009 playoff and several other great football events. As it was assumed before 2009 that NHS was better. Why not? Wellington supports a good event. It’s also capital because it is in the middle and so easiest to travel to for the whole country. 

In the other words if we’re a bunch of defeatists and when they say obviously Auckland and ChCh are better we go ‘yeh, that’s true’ why bother having a club?

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Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 04:23
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has:
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons.

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid.

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?

To quote our local journalist from earlier in the thread:
This whole thing feels messy — what’s actually going on here?

You're not wrong.- A. Voerman.

I mean if all of our fans and the rest the schadenfraueden country is convinced that it’s obviously clear that for the good of the country, OFC and everything that CU is better than us, let’s just give them our A league license and save Rob and co the money right? 

This is the kind of thing where the fans need to support our club. I mean it’s just assumed there should never be a hub in Wellington home of football, the 2009 playoff and several other great football events. As it was assumed before 2009 that NHS was better. Why not? Wellington supports a good event. It’s also capital because it is in the middle and so easiest to travel to for the whole country. 

In the other if we’re a bunch of defeatists and when they say obviously Auckland and ChCh are better we go ‘yeh, that’s true’ why bother having a club?
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 04:21
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has:
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons.

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid.

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?

To quote our local journalist from earlier in the thread:
This whole thing feels messy — what’s actually going on here?

You're not wrong.- A. Voerman.

I mean if all of our fans and the rest the schadenfraueden country is convinced that it’s obviously clear that for the good of the country, OFC and everything that CU is better than us, let’s just give them our A league license and save Rob and co the money right? 

This is the kind of thing where the fans need to support our club. I mean it’s just assumed there should never be a hub in Wellington home of football, the 2009 playoff and several other great football events. As it was assumed before 2009 that NHS was better. Why not? Wellington supports a good event. It’s also capital because it is in the middle and so easiest to travel to for the whole country. 
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 04:17
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has:
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons.

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid.

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?

To quote our local journalist from earlier in the thread:
This whole thing feels messy — what’s actually going on here?

You're not wrong.- A. Voerman.

I mean if all of our fans and the rest the schadenfraueden country is convinced that it’s obviously clear that for the good of the country, OFC and everything that CU is better than us, let’s just give them our A league license and save Rob and co the money right? 

This is the kind of thing where the fans need to support the club. I mean it’s just assumed there would never be a hub in Wellington home of football, the 2009 playoff and several other great football events. As it was assumed before 2009 that NHS was better. 
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 04:16
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has: 
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons. 

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid. 

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?

To quote our local journalist from earlier in the thread: 
This whole thing feels messy — what’s actually going on here?

You're not wrong.- A. Voerman.
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 04:08
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has: 
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons. 

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. Or certainly not that there was one clearly superior bid. 

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 03:54
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. Gone from amateur football to a potential WC bolter.

What CU has said has: 
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons. 

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. 

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?
Unknown editor edited September 07, 2025 03:53
Monto
ballane
20 Legend
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand what the Nix's argument is.

They've called it a disgrace, and says the process lacks transparency. Yet they haven't actually given any examples which support that. Now that OFC have released their respective report cards, the opposite seems true.

Other than "we're the Phoenix" can someone cite an argument made by Dome that they'd be a better choice than Auckland or Christchurch?
To be honest i dont understand what people dont get about the Phoenix being upset.
Dont get how people dont see how unfair it is one A League club gets selected over another leaving one no path to the CWC.
For me should have been both or neither especially when an Aussie team is in ahead of them.
Love that Christchurch has a team there just dont get how people can be okay with 1 A League team ahead of the other. 
Also very strange many Nix fans seem to be okay with it.

I don't think most of us are ok with it, we just mostly assume that the Nix put in a pretty average bid compared to the other two.

Based on what I've heard from Dome about this there seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge what this league is being created for while Edwards is well aware and is talking about it. I'm certainly assuming that they didn't do a good job here rather than assuming that OFC must be corrupt just because we didn't get in.

Let's be honest, based on the last twelve months that's not an unfair assumption.

Gotta warn you Monto: you’re sounding very English in your negativity.

During the last twelve months the Nix have debuted Luke Brooke Smith that I’ve seen some describe here as having the highest ceiling of any young player they’ve seen. Certainly there’s excitement. 

What CU has said has: 
1) we can bring football to a new place, which assumes the Nix will just continue as FIFA doles out cash and opportunities to their rivals. IE assumes there’s no loss only upside.
2) Christchurch is closer to the rest of the SI.
3) We’re friends with Vanuatu and the Solomons. 

None of that suggests to me that CU has some mystical blend that is going to ensure PNG or Tahiti get to the following World Cup. 

What is this league being created for, that the Nix are unaware of, but that you and CU have knowledge of? It’s not to create the best possible football league for OFC? Something else?