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Posted January 25, 2014 01:27 · last edited January 25, 2014 01:27

Bluemagic wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jerzy Merino wrote:

^It's possible that Ivan and a coupla other franchise chairmen are actually quite happy with the status quo. Apart from wanting greater promo and more games, that is.


That was certainly the implication in Danny Hay's piece in the SST:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/9626110/Hay-No-end-to-domestic-decay-in-NZ-football

If that were true, though, it does make me wonder why a handful of ACFC fans bother bitching and moaning on this forum about the state of the ASBP when perhaps they should either:

a) go and get in Ivan Vuksich's face about it, or

b) accept that the status quo is actually great for their club and be happy with a trip to the CWC just about every year

We are happy with ACFC and think it's the best club in the land. The state of the ASBP overall is NZF's responsibility, not one franchise.

This Sunday ACFC clash with Canterbury at Kiwitea Street. This will highlight the ASBP at its best, no thanks to an indifferent and in my opinion incompetent NZF.


I'm sorry Bluemagic but for someone who does a hell of a lot of complaining about NZF on this forum that is a very passive and defeatist point of view. 

You talk about NZF like they are the GCSB or something - a secret organisation who operate outside the law and who are completely immune to any external influence. What a load of bollocks.

Look at the current situation with FvH's resignation. If you feel so strongly that NZF needs to pay more attention to the ASBP then why don't you (or anybody else at ACFC) get off your bum and start lobbying the AFF to put forward a candidate at the NZF Congress in May who will represent your interests. Then get on the phone to the other Federation Chairs and get them on board. It's easy, it's democratic and it's exactly how someone like Frank got there in the first place.

While we're on the subject is anyone from Central/ACFC already on the AFF Board? If not, why not, considering your obvious importance in the Auckland football landscape.

Your comments seem to me to be a classic case of what Danny Hay was describing as taking a "micro-view to the growth and progress of the game" and being "solely interested in their club and their teams being on top of the pile".


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terminator_x edited January 25, 2014 01:27
Bluemagic wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jerzy Merino wrote:

^It's possible that Ivan and a coupla other franchise chairmen are actually quite happy with the status quo. Apart from wanting greater promo and more games, that is.


That was certainly the implication in Danny Hay's piece in the SST:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/9626110/Hay-No-end-to-domestic-decay-in-NZ-football

If that were true, though, it does make me wonder why a handful of ACFC fans bother bitching and moaning on this forum about the state of the ASBP when perhaps they should either:

a) go and get in Ivan Vuksich's face about it, or

b) accept that the status quo is actually great for their club and be happy with a trip to the CWC just about every year

We are happy with ACFC and think it's the best club in the land. The state of the ASBP overall is NZF's responsibility, not one franchise.

This Sunday ACFC clash with Canterbury at Kiwitea Street. This will highlight the ASBP at its best, no thanks to an indifferent and in my opinion incompetent NZF.


I'm sorry Bluemagic but for someone who does a hell of a lot of complaining about NZF on this forum that is a very passive and defeatist point of view. 
You talk about NZF like they are the GCSB or something - a secret organisation who operate outside the law and who are completely immune to any external influence. What a load of bollocks.
Look at the current situation with FvH's resignation. If you feel so strongly that NZF needs to pay more attention to the ASBP then why don't you (or anybody else at ACFC) get off your bum and start lobbying the AFF to put forward a candidate at the NZF Congress in May who will represent your interests. Then get on the phone to the other Federation Chairs and get them on board. It's easy, it's democratic and it's exactly how someone like Frank got there in the first place.
While we're on the subject is anyone from Central/ACFC already on the AFF Board? If not, why not, considering your obvious importance in the Auckland football landscape.
Your comments seem to me to be a classic case of what Danny Hay was describing as taking a "micro-view to the growth and progress of the game" and being "solely interested in their club and their teams being on top of the pile".