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Posted November 13, 2013 07:04 · last edited November 13, 2013 07:05

alireggae wrote:
james dean wrote:

I still don't understand how playing together will improve the players as individuals, which in the end should be the long term point of this exercise.  If the team play in 2015 and win an extra group match great, but this thing is only worth it if these players improve individually and some of these guys go on to play for the AWs.  In the end I personally am in the Foster camp, when it comes to youth football results at tournaments don't really matter - it's about developing players who can play in a certain way, not developing teams. Are these individuals going to develop more playing for this side?  That should be the only question


The more I think about the inclusion of this team in the ASBP, the more I harden my stance against it. In my mind, it's extremely blinkered and short sighted and pretty much sums up what NZF thinks about the national league. The obvious long term view would be for the NZF to make a concerted effort to grow and promote the league to attract more fans and give the youngsters something to aim for. All they really have at the moment is the Phoenix or overseas. If the ASBP was more visible, better attended and better promoted then it would naturally become a better and more sought after breeding ground for young Kiwi players as opposed to this pretend, short term team we have.

Totally agree Ali, NZF have got this one completely wrong. All they are doing is confusing the football public, I have had more than a few ask who is this new SC Wanderers that have turned up in the ASB Premiership? Totally disrespectful to all other franchises and ASB as a sponsor, bet that was a difficult conversation that had the spin doctors working overtime! Not to mention Youngheart. In trying to cover several bases under the guise of a national league desperately crying out for more games and larger exposure this is a backward step. If this is the best they can do it's simply not good enough. Regardless of the outcomes for the U20's at the next world cup it wasn't worth bastardising the ASB PL.

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Ronaldoknow edited November 13, 2013 07:05
alireggae wrote:
james dean wrote:

I still don't understand how playing together will improve the players as individuals, which in the end should be the long term point of this exercise.  If the team play in 2015 and win an extra group match great, but this thing is only worth it if these players improve individually and some of these guys go on to play for the AWs.  In the end I personally am in the Foster camp, when it comes to youth football results at tournaments don't really matter - it's about developing players who can play in a certain way, not developing teams. Are these individuals going to develop more playing for this side?  That should be the only question


The more I think about the inclusion of this team in the ASBP, the more I harden my stance against it. In my mind, it's extremely blinkered and short sighted and pretty much sums up what NZF thinks about the national league. The obvious long term view would be for the NZF to make a concerted effort to grow and promote the league to attract more fans and give the youngsters something to aim for. All they really have at the moment is the Phoenix or overseas. If the ASBP was more visible, better attended and better promoted then it would naturally become a better and more sought after breeding ground for young Kiwi players as opposed to this pretend, short term team we have.

Totally agree Ali, NZF have got this one completely wrong. All they are doing is confusing the football public, I have had more than a few ask who is this new SC Wanderers that have turned up in the ASB Premiership? Totally disrespectful to all other franchises and ASB as a sponsor, bet that was a difficult conversation that had the spin doctors working overtime! Not to mention Youngheart. In trying to cover several bases under the guise of a national league desperately crying out for more games and larger exposure this is a backward step. If this is the best they can do it's simply not good enough. Regardless of the outcomes for the U20's at the next world cup is wasn't worth bastardising the ASB PL.