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Posted December 16, 2009 05:45 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:19

El-Kun wrote:
 
I'm sick of 'supporters' calling for Rafa's head. Rafa is a victim of his own success. But anybody with a brain can see what we have here and the influence Rafa has within the club. 
 


please explain.
 
Billy Davies is an example I consider a victim of his own success - he performed amazingly in his first season with Derby County and had no right to get them into the premier league, but he did. Then, the club's expectations changed because of his success in getting them promoted and he got the cut, because Derby weren't good enough for the premier league. Had they not been promoted, but had finished 6th in the Championship that year, for example, he would possibly still be with them - and not be burdened with Nottingham Forest, poor man.

Liverpool's expectations have and always will be exceedingly high, (because you're the most successful team in England remember!), I wouldn't say that Rafa has exactly pushed your supporters expectations up would you? Liverpool would expect more from any manager, surely? 
francsernal2009-12-16 18:45:40

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El-Kun wrote:
 
I'm sick of 'supporters' calling for Rafa's head. Rafa is a victim of his own success. But anybody with a brain can see what we have here and the influence Rafa has within the club. 
 


please explain.
 
Billy Davies is an example I consider a victim of his own success - he performed amazingly in his first season with Derby County and had no right to get them into the premier league, but he did. Then, the club's expectations changed because of his success in getting them promoted and he got the cut, because Derby weren't good enough for the premier league. Had they not been promoted, but had finished 6th in the Championship that year, for example, he would possibly still be with them - and not be burdened with Nottingham Forest, poor man.

Liverpool's expectations have and always will be exceedingly high, (because you're the most successful team in England remember!), I wouldn't say that Rafa has exactly pushed your supporters expectations up would you? Liverpool would expect more from any manager, surely? 
francsernal2009-12-16 18:45:40