Group C: FRA | PER | AUS | DEN

it was a clear pen though? You wana win cos the ref misses something?

Sad to see Peru lose, no way should they have lost that, a host of missed chances including the penalty.

Denmark average, and not even great defensively.

Plus happened 36 years ago, and don't know any Aussie apart from the captain thought it was a good idea.

How was that not a pen for France? He was sliding in from side-back, did not even touched the ball and clipped the players foot. Another step and the France player would ld be alone in front of the goalie.

Burn the heretic!

And I hate the French for 1066. 

Definitely a pen

Denmark were dire. Was spewing they won that game, Peru were excellent without bothering Schmeichel too much

Never mind 1066, you guys still haven't got over the vikings plundering Lindisfarne in 793 :D

"He was going for the ball" Those are the old rules.

I was just pointing out that Risdon got the ball first.

It wasn't a decisive touch, and the ball was still in playing distance of the French player when Risdon tripped him. That's probably the reason why France got the call and the Argies didn't in their game (though to me both should've been given).

Aussies doing Aussie things on SBS in the build up to Denmark match. This is Rudan’s sister Mariana with Archie Thompson and Lisa da vanna 

Australia has done much better than most people thought TBH. Peru clearly has issues getting results in big matches, which is a shame because they play exciting football at their best.

Aussie have really done well with the schedule drawing Peru last in this group with them already eliminated.  If they get a win they are a good chance to get through if Denmark can't hold on to France..

Arzani must start

The French - easily the most unlikable team in the tournament. Mbappe and the other guy writhing around on the ground after being brushed by another player.

It's killing the game.

You must have missed the Brazil games.

Sucks to see Denmark coming second, they've been lucky to get 4 points. Peru & Australia both should have beaten them.

Peru played well but butchered good chances against Denmark.

In contrast Australia were just wooden and did not do enough to even deserve a draw.

First half Australia were wooden and not good, but second half Australia were lively. I was disappointed with Rojic first match, but he was good against Denmark, then Arzani came on and nearly blew them away. He certainly wasn't wooden!

What's with the aussie love in on this thread?

They're the enemy: never forget it :)

Can't wait to witness this dicking

Watched Denmark vs France. 0-0 worse game I have seen for ages. France tried to attack but look they have all season.....disjointed. Denmark just parked the bus. They played for the draw. The crowd were whistling and booing in the second half as Denmark just passed the ball amongst the defenders.

Should have watched the Ozzies.

I seem to recall after the 2006 World Cup, that Australia would need 2010 and 2014 for more "learning" and to be more complete "multicultural" footballing nation.  And that by 2018, Australia would be fully "learned" and invulnerable...a world champion threatening team...The plan seemed to be coming together after beating Syria to qualify...but eventually, they have scored 2 lousy penalties in 270 minutes of football, and they lost 2-0 to Peru (should've been 3 or 4-0), just like NZ.  

Thoughts?

Good to wake up to "Peru 2 - Neighbours 0"

This generation of aussie footballers is not as good as the golden one. Pretty much all there is to it really.

They have some good player but I'm glad those cods got rolled by Peru.

They hardly got rolled.

57% to 43% possession

14 to 4 shots

8 corners to 3.

The major difference was they could not finish.

When you consede 2-0 I consider that being rolled, we know that Peru prefer playing a counter attacking game as they have done against latino teams. Australia just didn't get the memo.

They are shark.

2-0 against Peru was considered valiant and respectable just 8 months ago...

gentlemen/women this is what karma looks like. If you are not convinced go read some of the Aussie comments on fourfourtwo in NZ - Peru match thread.

I've (crudely) figured out if the All Whites can beat Aussie after the Peru game

When you play at home, you have the home crowd advantage. That means theoretically, through the support of the home fans the home team should play a lot better than if they played on neutral or away grounds (Unless its the Nix in recent times). We played one home game and one away game during our qualifiers against Peru. At home we drew 0-0 when we had the home advantage, and lost 2-0 away when Peru had the home advantage. We need to find the middle ground of the scorelines as it should tell us what the score would be if it was played on neutral ground. Therefore we can say that we would've lost 1-0 on neutral ground. Australia played Peru in the World Cup and lost 2-0, the same amount we lost by when we were playing in Peru. However, Australias game against Peru was on neutral ground (Russia), so neither team had the home advantage. Peru were only able to beat us 2-0 when they had home advantage, but could beat Aussie 2-0 on neutral ground.

By recent results, I can determine that New Zealand would beat Australia in a football game

If you had watched the game you would not be saying that.

Right now they would beat us easily.

Australia had more chances to score in their game against Peru than we would have created in 5 games against them. 

Doesn't matter how many chances you create when your striker is Tommy Juric, Robbie Kruse is starting and a mediocre 18 year old is the next great hope.

Its an average Aussie squad that will be average for quite awhile unless they do what we did and pull a Winston Reid out of their ass. A full strength NZ squad could absolutely push them a long way, depending on how good Schmidt turns out to be - our best XI really isn't that much less talented.

I don't think that anyone here is arguing that this isn't an average Australian side, but even so, they threatened Peru a lot, and I mean a lot, more than we ever did, across two games.

And yes, we do have talented players in our first XI - our two best players are pretty solid international players. But the gap between them and our next couple of best players is pretty big, and then the gap between those and the rest is, basically, huge. Aussie have much better depth in that respect, and that helps create a reasonably cohesive, but a pretty unspectacular unit. Which, by the way, achieved about as much as could reasonably be expected in this tournament - no-one really hammered them or had an easy time with them, but they just lacked enough quality, especially up front, to really challenge good sides.